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Location: mercer wi | So this maybe a dumb question but buddy and I were talking the other day out fishing and seen a lot of deep marks in 40'+. So we were talking about pulling fish out of deep water. Was it safe, will they die. What if you reeled them up slow so body could get use to pressure. So any feed back would be appreciated and what's the science of it all. How deep is to deep? |
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| North Dakota says anything over 25' should be eaten. I don't know how lake trout do what they do. |
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Location: E. Tenn | Fishysam - 10/22/2020 2:15 PM
North Dakota says anything over 25' should be eaten. I don't know how lake trout do what they do.
It's all in the anatomy..
https://www.outdoorcanada.ca/are-lake-trout-releasable/ |
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| Musky can recover from deeper water, not sure the limit, look up videos on musky burping. It works, Ive seen in multiple times. |
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| I've pulled a few up from 30+ feet without any apparent issue, they swam away like any other released fish but I don't know if I just got lucky. These were late fall winter fish laying on the bottom next to the perch. |
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| I'm not saying the fish in the last two comments didn't survive, but it is easy for a fish to swim off and still have delayed mortality. |
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Location: mercer wi | So I'm going to nip this quick. This isn't a " who's minnow swims the deepest " thread. I just would like to hear, if any, science to this. Why could this be bad for the fish. If we want to talk about delayed mortality, we shouldn't fish with hooks on our lure. And maybe you should have to pass a class on proper fish handling. I seen so many people doing stupid #*#* while fish for musky. More weekend warriors that talk like they're expets because they watch you tube. SOOOO this is let's hear some info on deep fishing and why it could harm fish |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | upnortdave - 10/23/2020 7:37 PM
So I'm going to nip this quick. This isn't a " who's minnow swims the deepest " thread. I just would like to hear, if any, science to this. Why could this be bad for the fish. If we want to talk about delayed mortality, we shouldn't fish with hooks on our lure. And maybe you should have to pass a class on proper fish handling. I seen so many people doing stupid #*#* while fish for musky. More weekend warriors that talk like they're expets because they watch you tube. SOOOO this is let's hear some info on deep fishing and why it could harm fish
Ease up a bit! Not everyone can be a 'seasoned pro' muskie angler, we all have to start somewhere.
What you are asking about is called barotrauma, a condition caused by rapid decompression and expansion of gases in the swim bladder. I've caught muskies in as deep as 30', and didn't see much of that, at least not like in a perch or walleye. I have seen muskies burping bubbles as they are getting close to the net over deep water. Muskies CAN 'burp' (physostomous) , but sometimes have difficulty. Seems from previous discussions here over the years, fizzing is a very bad idea, and the issue arises fishing deeper than 40'.
From Larry Ramsell:
After the photo's are taken, gently place your muskie back in the water and hold them upright. If when you let them go they turn sideways or upside down, they may need to be "burped". Muskies swim bladder is below center, and some tired muskies cannot overcome excess air contained therein. Should this be the case, hold your fish's back against the side of the boat by the tail and using the other hand, gently press the stomach starting near the anal fin and push along the stomach towards the head. This will help to remove the excess air from the bladder and give the muskie a much better chance of regaining its equilibrium and swimming away in good shape.
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Location: mercer wi | Thanks for info steve, this is in the direction I'm looking for. SORRY for getting short but didn't want this to turn into a 4 page post about who's not being smart. I'm trying to educate myself and maybe others. Seen to many of these posts go south quick. Again sorry. Thanks again buddy. |
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Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn | Steve is spot on.
Not sure if it's the same, or not. I've had fish that fought hard on the surface. Not sure if they'd gulped air, but they've needed a burping. |
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| do the burping musky need a bottle or a new diaper? i have a new baby so i have some skills. |
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