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Message Subject: Fish rolling in the net.
miket55
Posted 10/7/2020 10:11 AM (#967902)
Subject: Fish rolling in the net.




Posts: 1265


Location: E. Tenn
Caught a sub 40" yesterday fishing solo. As soon as it hit the net, it rolled several times making a pretty impressive mess of netting, trebles, and fish. I was able to cut hooks, and unravel the mess, but it took considerably more time than I'd like. Fortunately water temps were in the low 60s, the fish remained feisty through the entire process, and took off like a scalded dog when released.

Does anyone have a trick or two to prevent this? I don't think the fish would have fared as well in warmer temperatures, and would like to keep this from recurring if possible.

Thanks
Top H2O
Posted 10/7/2020 10:33 AM (#967904 - in reply to #967902)
Subject: RE: Fish rolling in the net.




Posts: 4080


Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
Unless you're Dr. Doolittle, or have a Stun gun, the fish is going to do pretty much what it wants to... unless I'm missing something here.
Stupid Fish !
KingT
Posted 10/7/2020 11:26 AM (#967906 - in reply to #967902)
Subject: Re: Fish rolling in the net.




Posts: 59


My netting of my stow master is terrible for this. I'm gonna replace the bag to something better. I think frabill makes a good bag.
MACK
Posted 10/7/2020 12:41 PM (#967909 - in reply to #967902)
Subject: Re: Fish rolling in the net.




Posts: 1080


In my experiences, those smaller fish...seem to always be the most feisty and wild in the nets. Kind of like young kids or puppies: they have the most energy. Whereas the bigger...older fish...tend to be a bit more docile in the net: less energy.

They often say: Watch out for those smaller fish in the net, they're the ones that often times create the biggest injuries for themselves and for the angler due to their higher energy levels.

IAJustin
Posted 10/7/2020 1:01 PM (#967912 - in reply to #967909)
Subject: Re: Fish rolling in the net.




Posts: 2015


why I still like my Big Kahuna .. very hard for fish to roll up in that net.
North of 8
Posted 10/7/2020 2:13 PM (#967913 - in reply to #967912)
Subject: Re: Fish rolling in the net.




At a musky seminar a couple years ago, talked to a guide who was in the audience. He said he keeps a Boga grip in his boat for just this scenario. Does not use to lift the fish but to keep as still as possible, both for his and the fish's protection. Too many hooks in his hands over the years. But, in the scenario you describe, the fish has rolled and tangled before you could even get to it. Don't think there is anything you can do then.
nar160
Posted 10/7/2020 2:55 PM (#967914 - in reply to #967906)
Subject: Re: Fish rolling in the net.




Posts: 415


Location: MN
KingT - 10/7/2020 11:26 AM

My netting of my stow master is terrible for this. I'm gonna replace the bag to something better. I think frabill makes a good bag.


That netting is terrible! Definitely swap it out. Frabill 4666 bag is what I used - works great!
Vilas15
Posted 10/7/2020 7:52 PM (#967920 - in reply to #967902)
Subject: Re: Fish rolling in the net.




Posts: 183


I think the heavier bag is better in this scenario, like a frabil big game or kahuna. Im not sure whether trying to pick up the bag and tighten up the slack helps or not. I think having the bag in the water can provide some resistance.
RLSea
Posted 10/7/2020 9:14 PM (#967925 - in reply to #967914)
Subject: Re: Fish rolling in the net.




Posts: 489


Location: Northern Illinois
nar160 - 10/7/2020 2:55 PM

KingT - 10/7/2020 11:26 AM

My netting of my stow master is terrible for this. I'm gonna replace the bag to something better. I think frabill makes a good bag.


That netting is terrible! Definitely swap it out. Frabill 4666 bag is what I used - works great!



X2!
miket55
Posted 10/7/2020 9:23 PM (#967926 - in reply to #967902)
Subject: Re: Fish rolling in the net.




Posts: 1265


Location: E. Tenn
Thanks for the replies gents.. It seems as if the consensus is the fish is gonna do what it's gonna do. My net is a 37" hoop, with a 42" deep bag.. probably a bit too deep, but it is a fine knotless mesh manufactured down here in Knoxville (google Loki Nets), and have yet to see a split fin, or any other injury. My last trip up north, caught one about the same size that nearly cleared the net twice after my boat partner put it in the bag.. The #*^@ed thing actually jumped out of the net while unhooking it.

On the same trip, went out for an afternoon with the resort owner, who used a boga grip type of tool. While I'm not a big fan of them, I was impressed with the way he handled fish.

Looks like it's just another part of the game, and all we can do is the best we we can do.

Managed to load a photo, and you can see it rolled once and wrapped up the lure in the mesh, before rolling again.

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RobertK
Posted 10/7/2020 10:18 PM (#967929 - in reply to #967902)
Subject: Re: Fish rolling in the net.




Posts: 121


Location: Twin Cities Metro
Hooks wrapped up in the net are way less likely to end up in your hand. It is a pain to untangle, sure, but I am more patient after a fish put a treble in my hand (why is it always a pike?).

I have a Loki net, too! Love it!

ToddM
Posted 10/7/2020 11:10 PM (#967930 - in reply to #967902)
Subject: Re: Fish rolling in the net.





Posts: 20218


Location: oswego, il
I have a frabil big game. It has thick heavy mesh and it's much harder for them to tangle up so much. I also have a thin mesh net and stopped using it for mushy as they cocoon themselves in it.

Edited by ToddM 10/7/2020 11:12 PM
mikie
Posted 10/8/2020 6:51 AM (#967933 - in reply to #967902)
Subject: Re: Fish rolling in the net.





Location: Athens, Ohio
I've read the boga is worse on the fish than a bad net. Likely because folks tend to lift the fish by the gripped jaw? m
pklingen
Posted 10/8/2020 6:48 PM (#967942 - in reply to #967930)
Subject: Re: Fish rolling in the net.




Posts: 864


Location: NE Ohio
ToddM - 10/8/2020 12:10 AM

I have a frabil big game. It has thick heavy mesh and it's much harder for them to tangle up so much. I also have a thin mesh net and stopped using it for mushy as they cocoon themselves in it.



EXACTLY THIS!
RLSea
Posted 10/8/2020 7:58 PM (#967944 - in reply to #967902)
Subject: Re: Fish rolling in the net.




Posts: 489


Location: Northern Illinois
Those fine mesh nets such as the ones on the Power stow are good to the fish for saving fins, but after 20 minutes of trying to untangle and cut free an especially frisky muskie, I got rid of the bag and put on a heavier bag (4666). IMHO the fish can suffer more and possibly lethal damage being hopelessly entangled even with cuttng hooks.
BassThumb
Posted 10/12/2020 11:53 AM (#968024 - in reply to #967902)
Subject: Re: Fish rolling in the net.





Posts: 69


Location: Royalton, MN
Just gotta play them a little more before they go into the net, but that runs the risk of losing the fish. Naturally a fish that was hooked just 5-10 seconds before being netted is going to go apes#!t in the net.
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