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OnceBit
Posted 8/30/2020 9:02 AM (#965757)
Subject: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind





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I am looking for a glide baits I can swim just under the surface maybe 4" depth max in windy conditions. Something I can work slowly and gently swimming it side to side in the big wind All the standards may start out nicely near the surface but I either have to work em too fast or eventually they start working deeper. Bob's Pig bait from Odyssey lures has been my main stay for this technique but I looking for alternatives. Thanks.
c44hmusky
Posted 8/30/2020 5:32 PM (#965781 - in reply to #965757)
Subject: Re: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind





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Location: Plover, WI
OnceBit, I just sent you a PM
RLSea
Posted 8/30/2020 8:57 PM (#965791 - in reply to #965757)
Subject: Re: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind




Posts: 499


Location: Northern Illinois
Manta Surface Skimmer, near neutral buoyancy.
ToddM
Posted 8/30/2020 11:05 PM (#965798 - in reply to #965757)
Subject: Re: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind





Posts: 20254


Location: oswego, il
Ace baits out of England makes a big shad shaped glider that works exactly as you described.
bbeaupre
Posted 8/31/2020 4:37 PM (#965827 - in reply to #965757)
Subject: RE: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind




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have you tried a hellhound, the big ones run shallow and cast far. I also second the SS manta.
IAJustin
Posted 8/31/2020 4:59 PM (#965829 - in reply to #965827)
Subject: Re: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind




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if you want a bait that high in the water column, I assume you throw plenty of WTD topwater as well? 4" max depth run , for me thats topwater time!...while I rarely "want" to throw glide-baits, when I do I have just the opposite problem I want them running 5+ feet deep without working painfully slow
TCESOX
Posted 8/31/2020 6:10 PM (#965832 - in reply to #965757)
Subject: Re: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind





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I would think a Squirko would do what you want, or at least close to it.
ToddC
Posted 8/31/2020 6:47 PM (#965833 - in reply to #965757)
Subject: Re: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind




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Some of the old wood phantoms rode high, vipers had interchangeable weights, with no weight they were topwater and then had different sized weights according to what you wanted out of them. As mentioned Squirkos also run pretty shallow.
erico
Posted 9/2/2020 10:41 AM (#965872 - in reply to #965757)
Subject: Re: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind





Location: Hayward WI
Harvey Baits makes a glider called "The Brick". I've got one and you can run it just subsurface and cast it a mile. https://www.harveybaits.com/
Jeff Hanson
Posted 9/2/2020 12:11 PM (#965876 - in reply to #965872)
Subject: Re: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind




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X2 on the Squirko. I can run them just under the surface or right on the surface over heavy weeds. Have caught a lot of big fish using them in slop.
Team Rhino Outdoors is the only place that sells them now.
Jeff Hanson
madisonmuskyguide.com
sworrall
Posted 9/2/2020 1:32 PM (#965877 - in reply to #965757)
Subject: Re: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Suick Wabull.

https://suick.com/product-category/wabull-by-suick/
OnceBit
Posted 9/3/2020 1:01 AM (#965904 - in reply to #965757)
Subject: Re: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind





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Thanks everyone for all the suggestions. Most of the baits recommended I had on hand, a few custom baits I had to order. I was out Wednesday we had a 35 mph wind with huge rollers, had a blast. We set up drifts over a few of our large sand flats and went to work. Manta's skimmer worked nicely staying shallow but darted side to side to erratically, when I would slow it down the bait would start running deeper. Hell hounds the same. Vipers looked promising but I could not dial in the weight properly at the time. Pretty much deja vu as we have tried these baits in the past. Next time out I'll try the Wabull and Squirko's but if my memory is correct these baits have a high sink rate also. Thanks again.
Reef Hawg
Posted 9/3/2020 3:54 AM (#965905 - in reply to #965757)
Subject: RE: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind




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Location: north central wisconsin
The right unweighted 8" Reef Hawg can be worked in the manner described. I have a pike Shum Shum that actually needs to be worked far too slowly for me, stays high, and would be willing to trade it. I'm a squirko, Meuller Playmaker, or Hellhound guy in those situations if I 'have' to use a glider.
bbeaupre
Posted 9/3/2020 3:00 PM (#965924 - in reply to #965757)
Subject: RE: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind




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You must work your baits very, very, slowly. rod tip up makes a hellhound basically a topwater for me.
OnceBit
Posted 9/3/2020 10:29 PM (#965932 - in reply to #965924)
Subject: RE: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind





Posts: 99


I understand the slow. Generally when I think I am going slow...I slow it down, but I have not tried working with rod tip up, I will give it a try.
bbeaupre
Posted 9/4/2020 10:19 AM (#965940 - in reply to #965757)
Subject: RE: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind




Posts: 390


You will get a shallower action using a fluoro leader vs steal as well.
sworrall
Posted 9/4/2020 10:48 AM (#965942 - in reply to #965904)
Subject: Re: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
You can make the Wabull run JUST sub surface, and by working the rod tip up and down pointed directly at the bait using the reel to move the lure make the bait dart nearly straight up, twitch down, pause, and then go side to side. The trick to really making a Wabull dance is using the reel more than the rod.
esox109
Posted 9/6/2020 11:41 PM (#965995 - in reply to #965757)
Subject: Re: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind




Location: Neapolitan Chain Of Lakes
I know this is really old school but try a slidin' shad. I have a large version of one that is absofrickinlutely killer for exactly what you want to do. It is heavy enough to stay in the water while worked in good size waves yet stays just under the surface and darts as well as any HH I have.
kirkkopplin
Posted 9/7/2020 7:59 AM (#965997 - in reply to #965757)
Subject: RE: Very Shallow Running Glide Bait in Big Wind




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Location: Madison
once bit you have a pm
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