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Luke_Chinewalker
Posted 10/16/2003 8:16 AM (#85015)
Subject: Clear Coat Questions





Location: Minneapolis, MN
I have a few baits that need to be clear coated. Last year I attempted clear coating some other baits with Enviotex and failed miserably. What is the best way to clear coat for dumbies? I need something that puts a good thick layer on like the HR baits. Is there an easier way then Envirotex? When I tried Envirotex I thought I mixed it up right but it never got hard. It also put a VERY thin coating on considering how thick that stuff is.

Anyone who would be willing to share their tricks out there? I would really appreicate it.

Thanks.
MikeHulbert
Posted 10/16/2003 8:18 AM (#85017 - in reply to #85015)
Subject: RE: Clear Coat Questions





Posts: 2427


Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana
Luke,

Buy some spray Enviro-Tex. Super easy to use, and puts a hell of a good clear coat on.

It is almost idiot proof, so I know even you could use it.

Hulbert
Luke_Chinewalker
Posted 10/16/2003 8:47 AM (#85024 - in reply to #85017)
Subject: RE: Clear Coat Questions





Location: Minneapolis, MN
Where can I get the spray Envirotex? Does Hobby Lobby have it?
xllund
Posted 10/16/2003 9:28 AM (#85028 - in reply to #85015)
Subject: RE: Clear Coat Questions




Posts: 358


Hey Joe,

Enviro-Tex is actually easier to use than you might think. The key though is to measure it precisely. Pouring some into a container and eye balling it wont work bud. There a few different co-polymers (ITW makes a couple, Enviro-Tech, Flex-Coat) on the market that will give you a good tough surface finish. Most are two part mixes, so again, make sure you have the means to measure accurately.

One key element to keep in mind however Joe is that basically no matter what you type you use, the eventual degredation of the finish is inevitable. Hook swing scrapes, underwater rock edges, sharp debris, all take their toll on the bait surface finishes.

RAZE1
Posted 10/16/2003 10:16 AM (#85032 - in reply to #85028)
Subject: RE: Clear Coat Questions





Posts: 938


Location: NeverNever Lake
Flex-Coat high build + stir with drill+ let it sit to increase viscosity+ brush on with a 1" paint brush and spin around 10 rpm. As soon as it starts to set up, brush on another coat. You can get 12v windshield wiper motors on ebay all day long pretty cheap.
Captain Ahab
Posted 10/16/2003 10:32 AM (#85036 - in reply to #85015)
Subject: RE: Clear Coat Questions





Posts: 35


Location: Cudahy, WI
I didn't have any trouble with the Envirotex, I even added glitter to it. I got an old barbeque rotissere motor and rigged it up so I could turn 4 lures at a time. Careful measuring is a must, but sometimes I erred on the side of more hardener on purpose because it was summer and a little humid. I never used the spray on, but I like the thickness of the original. On topwaters and gliders I even put on more than 1 coat. I made sure to keep them turning for at least 24 hours and had no problems.
Cap'n
MikeHulbert
Posted 10/16/2003 10:33 AM (#85038 - in reply to #85015)
Subject: RE: Clear Coat Questions





Posts: 2427


Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana
http://www.taxidermy.com/cat/18/artwater.html

Haven't you ever heard of typing in a product under a search engine like yahoo.com, hitting return, and then clicking on a site? Just joking with you Luke, I know you need a lot of help.

It is $5.00 a can, and a can will go pretty far.

Hulbert
Slamr
Posted 10/16/2003 10:40 AM (#85040 - in reply to #85015)
Subject: RE: Clear Coat Questions





Posts: 7115


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
OR you can go the cheap and easy way, by just coating the lures with the hard clear coat jig paint that they sell at tackle shops and the such. Just paint it on with a brush and it will harden in a few hours. Buy me some chipotle and its yours, I have an extra bottle if you're interested.

jerkin
Posted 10/16/2003 10:48 AM (#85044 - in reply to #85015)
Subject: RE: Clear Coat Questions




Posts: 226


Location: W. PA.
Captain Ahab, I had the same idea of using a bbq rotissere, but never figured out how to mount multiple lures. How about a description or pic.?

Thanks, Scott
MJB_04
Posted 10/16/2003 11:01 AM (#85048 - in reply to #85015)
Subject: RE: Clear Coat Questions





Posts: 346


Netcraft also makes a lure turner for something like 10 bucks. Buy 5 bucks worth of additional wiring; switch, plug-in, etc. Then you can use your imagination on how to make a whole essembly to turn dozens of lures (I'm still working on that :))

MJB
xllund
Posted 10/16/2003 12:44 PM (#85069 - in reply to #85015)
Subject: RE: Clear Coat Questions




Posts: 358


Something of note here folks. Use a bit of caution when you design your bait turners. RPM & the diameter of the turning wheel you make could influence the drying characteristics on the bait.

As an example: a 10 RPM motor turning a single bait (centerline of bait passing through the centerline of the output shaft of the motor, inline) say like a Jackpot that has a 1" dia (3.14" circumference)would have a surface speed (point at which the coating passes through the air) of approx. 31.4" per minute. A bait turner that has a 10" diameter turning at the same RPM would have a surface speed of approximately 26' per minute. Since most of these surface coatings are self leveling, its important that the bait doesnt turn too quickly. What will happen is the coating will become thin on one section of the bait, and thicker on another. Or it will fling small droplets until the hardener takes effect leaving small waves or ridges in the finish. For my money, I would stay under 7 rpm regardless how you make your turner.

Hope this helps Joe.

out2llunge
Posted 10/16/2003 2:00 PM (#85082 - in reply to #85015)
Subject: RE: Clear Coat Questions




Posts: 393


Location: Kawarthas, Ontario
By far the easiest clar coat you can do is one YOU don't even do yourself. Take your baits to a local auto body/paint shop and have THEM clear coat them for you. I made 15 baits and took them to my local guy. He did a fabulous job, no drips, no runs, no yucky smells. Total cost was 3 small muskie baits for him as he wanted to take up the sport.

Cheers,

J.P.
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