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Location: Roscoe IL | Spent some time over the weekend catching up on the modern records and see that the WR bar height is, 58 lbs measuring 58" with a 29" girth. It's been held since September 10, 2013 by Joe Seeberger. Then to read on on what he caught it on is just as incredible.
With today's equipment that includes all of the lures I see available, how long would you think this record will stand?
I check youtube and bet there is not much out there I have not viewed over this winter. The giant fish I see being caught makes me think it should have happened by now.
I hear & read of fat 60" fish being captured in Georgian Bay and other known areas that produce giants. Is it perhaps there is no interest in submitting a catch to the MDMWRP that would raise the bar?
Will it happen this year? I sure would like to see it.
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Location: The desert | Without trying to be a massive Richard here, it’s because no one really cares. |
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Location: Roscoe IL | No worries Mike, i'm sure most are sick of hearing about all of the controversy. If know one cared though, they wouldn't have all of these tournaments to see who caught the most and the biggest. It's fun for some but not all. Personally I would let it go to avoid the scrutiny.
Not just Muskie but all of the record fish interest me. The WR bluegill looks like a freak of nature. Puts a whole new meaning to the term panfish. |
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| Some fish are just genetic freaks, like Andre the Giant. There is a bar and grill on the lake where I live. For years the original owner had a glass case on the wall containing a giant crappie. It belonged to someone else but as long as the guy owned the bar, it was there. The stated weight of the crappie was 4 pounds and 7 or 8 oz. (don't remember exact figure). It was an old skin mount and it looked every bit of 4+ pounds. Story was the guy that caught it thought he had a trophy small mouth on the line until he finally got it to net. Many years ago I caught an 18" crappie ice fishing while using a large pike minnow and it was puny compared to the one in the bar. Place changed hands twice in rapid succession and story is that one of the guys who was only in there for a couple months before defaulting on a land contract made off with some trophy game that he did not own, including that crappie. |
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| I believe there are muskies out there over the caliber of "as big as they get". It happens with every species.
For those fish to be seen or caught? Those "freaks of nature" are out somewhere deep in the great lakes, eating fish that are 3 times the size of the lures we throw/troll, miles away from the reefs, islands, and weed lines we fish.
Our odds of contacting one are basically zero. We're just not fishing where they live, or with anything that resembles what they eat. |
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| esoxaddict - 4/29/2019 7:19 PM
Our odds of contacting one are basically zero. We're just not fishing where they live, or with anything that resembles what they eat.
shhhh...most guys haven’t found out the secret!!!...Monster Muskies are running around with Bigfoot in the woods eating squirrels and rabbits !!!!!!
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| In all seriousness your comments are silly as mine... 1000lb marlin eat lures smaller than we throw for Muskies... a pounder is roughly 18” ... I can assure you it doesn’t take a 54” lure to attract a 70 pound Muskie ... they aren’t caught cause they don’t exist, is there one unicorn out there? Well some believe Bigfoot is out there too... guess we can see which one shows up first?
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Location: Roscoe IL | It makes sense that a WR caliber fish would come from big waters. When you read about where some of the current & past record fish were caught is very interesting.
I get that what they are feeding on contribute to their size, add a habitat that provides protection from predators including anglers and that makes perfect sense. But to see some of these giants come out of smaller lakes that don't exhibit those conditions exactly is just as interesting. WR Walleye out of Old Hickory Lake in Tennessee still stands. My head tells me that this could be done by someone fishing in lake Superior.
Forage base is key, but sometimes certain waters just produce giant fish time after time for other reasons that don't register in my thick skull. Sounds like a job for Jeremy Wade...
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | Don't forget GENETICS! KEY... |
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| IAJustin - 4/29/2019 9:34 PM In all seriousness your comments are silly as mine... 1000lb marlin eat lures smaller than we throw for Muskies... a pounder is roughly 18” ... I can assure you it doesn’t take a 54” lure to attract a 70 pound Muskie ... they aren’t caught cause they don’t exist, is there one unicorn out there? Well some believe Bigfoot is out there too... guess we can see which one shows up first? There's no Sasquatches in Iowa. I tend to agree with EA that there is muskies out there on huge bodies of water that have never seen a lure. |
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Location: Roscoe IL | Baby Mallard - 4/30/2019 1:40 PM
IAJustin - 4/29/2019 9:34 PM In all seriousness your comments are silly as mine... 1000lb marlin eat lures smaller than we throw for Muskies... a pounder is roughly 18” ... I can assure you it doesn’t take a 54” lure to attract a 70 pound Muskie ... they aren’t caught cause they don’t exist, is there one unicorn out there? Well some believe Bigfoot is out there too... guess we can see which one shows up first? There's no Sasquatches in Iowa. I tend to agree with EA that there is muskies out there on huge bodies of water that have never seen a lure.
But there is a Yeti in in today's news..
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/indian-army-says-it-found-yeti-fo... |
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | Of course there are muskies out there that have never seen a lure...doesn't mean that they grow to record size. |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | That's what is so great about Muskie fishing, and fishing in general - you don't really know what's possible.... until it happens.
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| Larry Ramsell - 5/1/2019 8:32 AM Of course there are muskies out there that have never seen a lure...doesn't mean that they grow to record size. IMO best chance is a huge body of water not known for muskies at all. Migrated from a river or crick and very few muskies in the lake at all. Not even a muskie fisherman in close proximation. |
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Location: Already Gone | phselect - 5/1/2019 8:53 AM
That's what is so great about Muskie fishing, and fishing in general - you don't really know what's possible.... until it happens.
This comment sums it up best. It's the thrill of the hunt...the preparation. The plan.
And the ever present possibilty of something above average happening.
And not just muskie fishing either. |
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Location: oswego, il | A giant musky can come from a painful stiff feeling in the neck or back? |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | ToddM - 5/1/2019 10:26 AM
A giant musky can come from a painful stiff feeling in the neck or back?
Most of the muskies I've caught - big or small - certainly did !
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Location: Ashland WI | Mark Hoerich - 5/1/2019 9:41 AM
phselect - 5/1/2019 8:53 AM
That's what is so great about Muskie fishing, and fishing in general - you don't really know what's possible.... until it happens.
This comment sums it up best. It's the thrill of the hunt...the preparation. The plan.
And the ever present possibilty of something above average happening.
And not just muskie fishing either.
I think I know what you are getting at here...
Unfortunately for me, the above average happening is not that often... |
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| I won't report it if I catch one. |
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| I am hoping to see the record beat for the sake of the fish, history, and science.
If not...
That is still a very large fish.
If it is never broken... then we may have one of the answers I am sure many care about.
I believe it would be a good thing for everyone to know if a record is caught... and I am not sure it would be good of me to keep such a record secret - after all this time.
Many people seek and care about the next world record... and many have put in countless hours to make sure some of these fish can reach their expected sizes.
They deserve to know. |
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| I'd like to see the record broken just so we don't have to hear people say that Louie Spray caught the world record! :). Quite honestly I don't want to be the one to catch it, for two reasons: 1. I don't want to deal with all the BS that comes with it and 2. Besting my PB is always a goal. If I were to catch a true world record, the drive to catch a bigger one would be so daunting that I would get discouraged. I'd have to take up golf or something I guess. |
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| IAJustin - 4/29/2019 9:34 PM
In all seriousness your comments are silly as mine... 1000lb marlin eat lures smaller than we throw for Muskies... a pounder is roughly 18” ... I can assure you it doesn’t take a 54” lure to attract a 70 pound Muskie ... they aren’t caught cause they don’t exist, is there one unicorn out there? Well some believe Bigfoot is out there too... guess we can see which one shows up first?
well put
years ago ive tried to start to downsize to lure mainly smaller than 8 inch.result was that good that i never troll lures over 8 inch. but for some reason that i cannot explain they love rubber bait that seems to nevr be big enough. they love lures that hurt our shoulders.
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