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Location: Ontario, Canada | Anyone see the new St.Croix Mojo Muskie Trolling rods yet? Or use one? |
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Location: mercer wi | To start out this conversation, a huge st Croix fan. I've looked at them at the store and talked to the sales guys and designers. I haven't used the MOJO trolling yet but used the MOJO cat 8' xh last year and liked it for trolling, which I'm just getting into, and for suckers. Both glass rods are the same blank. I didn't like the 2 piece idea just because I don't like 2 piece on 9' rods. And the $220 price tag on a rod that I wouldn't use much except in fall.
Otherwise it seems to be a great trolling rod and suckers rod. I did just pickup a new chaos 9' trolling rod at show on saturday and was really impressed with the rod. And at $120 it's more reasonable to me and it's 1 piece. Only down side I found so far in chaos is it doesn't fit as well as I was hoping in my down east rod holders. It has a huge reel seat. The chaos rod is way over built for the $120 price tag which is good. I'm going to grind some of the rod holder down with a Drexel to the holder sits better in bracket. |
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Location: Ontario, Canada | Agreed on the XH Mojo Cat rod, a great troller, pulls big deep diving cranks beautifully. |
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| I also really like the Chaos Tackle - Custom X 8' trolling rod, have 2 of them, they haul everything, love em! You should check them out!
http://chaostackle.com/product/custom-x-trolling-rod/ |
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| I like my tdr's |
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Location: SE Wisc | Looked at the custom x rods at the Milwaukee show and was not overly impressed. I’ve heard good reviews though and was thinking about getting one until I stopped at the Elk River booth. Ended up buying their 8’ XH trolling rod. Just felt of higher quality to me plus they had a show special that put them under $150. I like the 8’ for trolling due to the fact that I often fish solo which makes it easier to net fish. |
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| look for catfish rod like tiger uglystick.lots of st-clair guides like fleming are using them for good reasons ,unbreakable and low cost and they will even handle monel line.and of course there is no trigger !
imo trolling rod over 100 bux is a real waist of money |
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Location: Northern Illinois | TDR's on sale at Thorne Bros. $24.99 |
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Location: SE Wisc | I prefer to buy things once instead of buying cheap over and over again. |
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| the thing you don't know is value of trolling rod mean nothing when we talk durability.im sure an uglystick tiger would break in half almost all the st-croix rods.look at some torture test at youtube.ive also seen a reel breaking before the rod,no joke ! |
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| Goog luck breaking a tdr. |
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Location: SE Wisc | My opinion has less to do with durability and more to do with quality and being completely satisfied with my purchase so I don’t feel the need to buy again. However, with glass trolling rods you’re probably right, don’t necessarily need to spend a lot there. |
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| Yes if you want to troll a 6'' woddie or a nils master the Tiger Uglystik is fine, and the St Clair guides using them are also letting their planner boards do all the work.
If you are going to be pulling anything with a big diving lip like Hose Flat Shads, Perchbaits, Plows, and so on, then your going to need a good trolling rod.
It's really funny that when someone is looking for a casting set up, no one bats an eye at $300 to $500 rod, and another $300 to $500 for the reel, for a $600 to $1000 casting combo. When it comes to buying a trolling rod the same people say no need to spend more then $100, and that couldn't be further from the truth, if I'm a trolling $100 Hose Bait, BWB, or Plow then I want a high quality rod that can do the job.
Like CiscoKid82 said, I don't want to buy cheap over and over again!!!
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Location: SE Wisc | Bob54 - 3/9/2018 5:14 PM
Yes if you want to troll a 6'' woddie or a nils master the Tiger Uglystik is fine, and the St Clair guides using them are also letting their planner boards do all the work.
If you are going to be pulling anything with a big diving lip like Hose Flat Shads, Perchbaits, Plows, and so on, then your going to need a good trolling rod.
It's really funny that when someone is looking for a casting set up, no one bats an eye at $300 to $500 rod, and another $300 to $500 for the reel, for a $600 to $1000 casting combo. When it comes to buying a trolling rod the same people say no need to spend more then $100, and that couldn't be further from the truth, if I'm a trolling $100 Hose Bait, BWB, or Plow then I want a high quality rod that can do the job.
Like CiscoKid82 said, I don't want to buy cheap over and over again!!!
Exactly. I bought the XH rod at the show for trolling my hardest pulling lures and big stuff I use in the fall ( Mattlocks, 13” Grandma’s, 12” Big Game’s, etc). I will probably pick up some TDRs for smaller stuff. I’m somewhat new to the trolling game, not that I don’t know understand trolling, just that I’ve always used my casting gear. Also picked up some Offshore Tackle Mag planers. |
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Location: Ontario, Canada | I had a chance to pick up the 8 foot H, and 10 foot H the other night at a club meeting. So far fairly impressed. |
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| Bob54 - 3/9/2018 5:14 PM
Yes if you want to troll a 6'' woddie or a nils master the Tiger Uglystik is fine, and the St Clair guides using them are also letting their planner boards do all the work.
If you are going to be pulling anything with a big diving lip like Hose Flat Shads, Perchbaits, Plows, and so on, then your going to need a good trolling rod.
It's really funny that when someone is looking for a casting set up, no one bats an eye at $300 to $500 rod, and another $300 to $500 for the reel, for a $600 to $1000 casting combo. When it comes to buying a trolling rod the same people say no need to spend more then $100, and that couldn't be further from the truth, if I'm a trolling $100 Hose Bait, BWB, or Plow then I want a high quality rod that can do the job.
Like CiscoKid82 said, I don't want to buy cheap over and over again!!!
im sure of one thing ,you have never use a single ugly stick rod! many guides from the frazer river are using the tiger to caught 600+ pound white sturgeon .i use bwb 10 inch herring,14 inch franky baits and all the deep diver you can dream of
and my rods bring them easy.your logic is kind of strange.lsc guides can comfortably bring 50 inch plus fish but not a deep divers? maybe your deep divers are as big as the musky himself ? you can buy the rod that you want but trolling rod and casting rod are 2 different things , one can reach big money because we look at the strongest and lightest at the same time,that's why we mainly look for graphite but the other one sit inside the salty so we just need the strongest rod possible (that's why graphite is a no no)with good ss guides that could handle wire.and aCTION IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS CASTING ROD BECAUSE almost half the rods are in the water at the end you will get nothing more than a tiger rod or other catfish rods even if you would pay 600$ you will not bring a big wishmaster better nor you will caught more musky period ! |
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Location: SE Wisc | supertrollr - 3/9/2018 8:35 PM
Bob54 - 3/9/2018 5:14 PM
Yes if you want to troll a 6'' woddie or a nils master the Tiger Uglystik is fine, and the St Clair guides using them are also letting their planner boards do all the work.
If you are going to be pulling anything with a big diving lip like Hose Flat Shads, Perchbaits, Plows, and so on, then your going to need a good trolling rod.
It's really funny that when someone is looking for a casting set up, no one bats an eye at $300 to $500 rod, and another $300 to $500 for the reel, for a $600 to $1000 casting combo. When it comes to buying a trolling rod the same people say no need to spend more then $100, and that couldn't be further from the truth, if I'm a trolling $100 Hose Bait, BWB, or Plow then I want a high quality rod that can do the job.
Like CiscoKid82 said, I don't want to buy cheap over and over again!!!
im sure of one thing ,you have never use a single ugly stick rod! many guides from the frazer river are using the tiger to caught 600+ pound white sturgeon .i use bwb 10 inch herring,14 inch franky baits and all the deep diver you can dream of
and my rods bring them easy.your logic is kind of strange.lsc guides can comfortably bring 50 inch plus fish but not a deep divers? maybe your deep divers are as big as the musky himself ? you can buy the rod that you want but trolling rod and casting rod are 2 different things , one can reach big money because we look at the strongest and lightest at the same time,that's why we mainly look for graphite but the other one sit inside the salty so we just need the strongest rod possible (that's why graphite is a no no )with good ss guides that could handle wire.and aCTION IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS CASTING ROD BECAUSE almost half the rods are in the water at the end you will get nothing more than a tiger rod or other catfish rods even if you would pay 600$ you will not bring a big wishmaster better nor you will caught more musky period !
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Location: Northern Illinois | Trolling and casting rods have different requirements. Like ST said, for casting, lightness and action are important; not so much with trolling where strength is most important. Just because something costs more doesn't mean it's better for the application. Also I appreciate the fact my trolling rods have more flex trolling 3-5 mph with superline - less stress on equipment. |
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Location: SE Wisc | No I did have an ugly stick rod. It was my second rod I ever had. The first was a Snoopy Rod! Also, the heaviest of the ugly stick tiger rods I believe is 7’ and is rated for lures up to 8 oz. I’m a bit of a perfectionist and like to match lure to rod, whether casting or trolling. And in this country, last time I checked, we were free to make our own decisions. |
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Location: SE Wisc | Also, I only buy rods made in Wisconsin |
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| was not even talking to you,or maybe you have forgot that you log in with the bob account ? |
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| Ciscokid82 - 3/10/2018 7:14 AM
No I did have an ugly stick rod. It was my second rod I ever had. The first was a Snoopy Rod! Also, the heaviest of the ugly stick tiger rods I believe is 7’ and is rated for lures up to 8 oz. I’m a bit of a perfectionist and like to match lure to rod, whether casting or trolling. And in this country, last time I checked, we were free to make our own decisions.
could you telling me the benefit to use the good lures rating for trolling rod?how do you calculate how hard they pull ?did you cast you lures when you troll?? for your info the lures rating is about the action that you will have behind your head,it's about casting!it's about the maximum cast ability not when you reel the lure in.have nothing to do about trolling ! it was my last tip for you ,next time you will have to paypal me a fortune.i hope someone will be able to get the patience to point you at the right direction because you are all wrong. nothing to do about taste or perfection it's fact! |
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Location: mercer wi | HOW COME ALL THESE POSTS ALWAYS TURNS INTO WHO'S ROD IS BIGGER. I'd have no problem buying a mojo musky because st croix makes a superb product. |
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Location: Southwest PA | upnortdave - 3/10/2018 9:58 AM
HOW COME ALL THESE POSTS ALWAYS TURNS INTO WHO'S ROD IS BIGGER. I'd have no problem buying a mojo musky because st croix makes a superb product.
Winternet? Haha agreed on buying a mojo for that reason too, but am perfectly happy with the tdr's too. |
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| yeah sorry pigeontroller ! my reply have nothing to do about your simple question,i dislike when my topic turn into something totally different than the initial post and guess what, im doing the same thing |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | Ciscokid82 - 3/10/2018 8:14 AM
No I did have an ugly stick rod. It was my second rod I ever had. The first was a Snoopy Rod! Also, the heaviest of the ugly stick tiger rods I believe is 7’ and is rated for lures up to 8 oz. I’m a bit of a perfectionist and like to match lure to rod, whether casting or trolling. And in this country, last time I checked, we were free to make our own decisions.
The lure OZ rating on rods is extremely relative.... For if you abide by them, then St Croix doesnt even offer a rod capable of throwing pounders. (Which we know they do). And the Big Nasty would be REALLY pushing it throwing a mag dawg (which we know they are not.)
Referring to Legend Tournys and Elites, of course. |
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Location: SE Wisc | The only rods I would even consider throwing a pounder with, that St. Croix makes, would be the new premier 9’ XH and the 8’6” XH big dawg or premier. I have the premier 8’6” and have thrown pounders with it and it is less than ideal. That just leaves the new 9’ premier being the only “true” big rubber rod that they make. That’s why the only rod I own that isn’t St Croix is my big rubber rod. IMO, the rating is relative. I certainly would never throw pounders with the legend elite series, but to each his own and casting style has a lot to do with how much a rod can take. |
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| This topic is a bit old, but does any one know, how much shorter the 2 piece rods gets when apart? |
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