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| just wondering if you guys would do this? not a year old boat mind you, but a 2008 that has over 700 hours on the motor..
ive always said i wouldnt just because you know its been used a bunch, but i dont know now. i'd prefer one like mine thats lightly used. 
just curious what you all thought on the subject.
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Location: The desert | I hear Bucher has one that he is looking to move, could probably get a good deal on it.... |
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| I wouldn't.
Buying a 2008 guide boat is like buying a 2000 or older. Most good guides fish at lest 4x as much as me:( |
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Location: Vilas | I personally wouldnt have a problem buying a guides boat. Go look at it, has it taken care of? thats really all that matters... as far as hours on a motor... I think that isnt that big of a deal anymore with the four strokes, no diff than the motors in your truck.....just my opinion |
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Location: Minnesota | I've gone out with a few guides. They all drive there boats like they stole them balls to the wall. It's just might be me but I would not buy a guide boat. |
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Location: oswego, il | I would think a 2008 guide boat would be taken care of seeing it would be owned and not sponsored. The price should reflect the hours, otherwise, walk. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | I used to say no way would I buy a guide boat. But like anything else its probably situational.
Few years ago I bought a 2008 boat from a guy that fished a lot and had over 600 hours on the Yamaha 4 stroke. I paid a little to have a shop check it out and the rpm data showed this motor spent a lot of its time at low to mid range rpm. Rarely at full throttle. I had to replace the trim motor last year but basically been perfect.
700 hours on a 2008 just means good regular use really. Must not be a full time guide or must not fish real big water.
Take a look at it. If the rig looks clean and well kept, consider having a shop give the motor a once over, detail out the rpm data and do a compression and leak down check. If it all checks out and the price is right it will probably work well for you.
If it looks beat and bruised and rpm shows it was run at full throttle most of the time I'd keep looking.
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Location: midwest | *delete*
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Slime King - 3/28/2018 8:35 PM
Looks like lots of ford guys... no dodge or toyota fans? Not looking to go any bigger than a 150/1500 size truck. I'm pulling a 18' boat that's fairly light.
Ever look into a "Smart Car" Bwaaa..haaha.... sorry, couldn't resist.
Here I thought you were looking at a tow vehicle.
A half ton truck/SUV should handle your 18' boat just fine. |
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Location: central Wisconsin | 2013 F150 here with 5.0 and 3:55 gears. I bought it new four years ago, been a great truck. Pulled my 7000# camper and my tin boat. Summer mileage non towing is 19-20. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | What happened here? I thought we were looking at used guide boats?  |
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| thanks for the replies guys.. turns out the guide only owned it that last 3 years, so he put about 600-700 on it in 3 seasons!
its not in the best shape either, and i get it, it was being used alot!
so i will stick with the majority, and with what i always thought, and stay away from boats like this, unless they want to severely discount it!
im sure theres a grandma out there that only drives her boat to church on Sunday, thats the one i want! |
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Location: Vilas | when buying a used boat, realize youre going to have to put up with a few issues ... scratch/scratches... maybe a ding or two... If youre waiting for a like brand new boat for sale for peanuts, that grandma is selling b/c grandpa died.... you wont be on the water anytime soon. The ole stories of the 67 Chevy for sale for $300 and turns out to be a Corvette are fantasy. Good luck in your search!
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Absolutely not. Never.
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Location: North Central IL USA | Nope!
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | sukrchukr - 3/29/2018 8:37 AM
when buying a used boat, realize youre going to have to put up with a few issues ... scratch/scratches... maybe a ding or two... If youre waiting for a like brand new boat for sale for peanuts, that grandma is selling b/c grandpa died.... you wont be on the water anytime soon. The ole stories of the 67 Chevy for sale for $300 and turns out to be a Corvette are fantasy. Good luck in your search!
I think Dave understands that point....
With any used boat, there are always things to check...that is a given. I think he's well aware of that. He's just like any of us who cannot go brand new glass...he wants a good reasonable deal... the boat he's looking at...I think he has an extremely valid question...
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| I bought a guide boat. 3 years old and 700 some hours on it. Vast majority of the hours were low RPM and the motor is a mid range 4stroke. The boat I sold was 4 years older than the boat I bought and it had north of 600 hours. I was 100% confident in that motor so I was confident in the one I ended up upgrading to. The cost difference between new and the boat I bought used was enough to buy a new motor should catastrophe strike.
One thing that bothered me about buying a guide boat was set up. Guides fish from a different part of the boat than you will potentially. Not the end of the world but it can be annoying re-configuring the boat. For example my boat doesn't have a bow trim switch. Which for me is a problem but for the guide running the boat at the back it was important because clients caused more problems kicking the switch by accident than he gained by having it.
If you are buying a rare model it might be your only choice besides buying new so you will have to run the math on that situation for yourself. If you are looking at a common model I would take your time and look for a "deal". Be prepared to wait though. |
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| sukrchukr - 3/29/2018 8:37 AM
when buying a used boat, realize youre going to have to put up with a few issues ... scratch/scratches... maybe a ding or two... If youre waiting for a like brand new boat for sale for peanuts, that grandma is selling b/c grandpa died.... you wont be on the water anytime soon. The ole stories of the 67 Chevy for sale for $300 and turns out to be a Corvette are fantasy. Good luck in your search!
oh i get that, but if you're not in a hurry, and already have a boat, you can find good deals.. i let one get away last year because i didnt want to drive 8 hours, still kicking myself
and the boat i have now looked new when i bought it used, and still does!
they can be hard to find, but they are out there... |
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| I would think a guide would likely take care of a boat better than average, but yes lots of use on motor and carpet, hinges, ect.
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Location: Ashland WI | sukrchukr - 3/29/2018 8:37 AM
when buying a used boat, realize youre going to have to put up with a few issues ... scratch/scratches... maybe a ding or two... If youre waiting for a like brand new boat for sale for peanuts, that grandma is selling b/c grandpa died.... you wont be on the water anytime soon. The ole stories of the 67 Chevy for sale for $300 and turns out to be a Corvette are fantasy. Good luck in your search!
Wasn't it a 66?
"What she called a Chevy, was a 66 corvette....." |
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Location: SE, WI. | I think you need to check out the condition of ware and tear on the boat. Bells and whistles sort of speak! And how things are laid out, and how features will benefit your needs.
If your worried about 6-7 hundred hours on the engine, it's just getting broken in. A engine that is run 4-5 times a week, is better than a engine that gets used 3-4 times a year. Motors are made to run, NOT sit in the garage!!!
Heck, just talked with a Bombardier Employee. They are seeing some etecs, now starting to trickle in with 5,000-6,000 hours on some of the first ones built. Most of mine when traded in, had around 2,000-2,500 hours on them with zero problems.
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Location: MN | 700 hours isn’t really crazy most of those motors test out at 3500 plus hours.
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Location: Hayward, WI | T3clay - 3/30/2018 4:17 PM
I would think a guide would likely take care of a boat better than average, but yes lots of use on motor and carpet, hinges, ect.
I think just like the rest of us, it depends on the guide.
I only hired a guide once. I would NOT buy his boat. It was either full throttle or trolling. No in between. The splash well was green with scum. It had terrible dock rash and looked dirty and battered.
To him it was used as a tool.and not something to be proud of. This guy fished so often and hard that I have a hard time believing he made any time for preventative maintenance during the season. Maybe he did, not sure. The motor did run like a top but the whole package sure got used hard.
That was just that guy though. I'm sure others are different. |
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