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Muskie Fishing -> Lures,Tackle, and Equipment -> Summertime gliders
 
Message Subject: Summertime gliders
Musky_Mo16
Posted 6/8/2017 5:16 PM (#864438)
Subject: Summertime gliders




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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't
Anybody use gliders in the summer? I know they make good fall and spring baits but what about summer? Gliders are definatly becoming my favorite bait to fish.
bbeaupre
Posted 6/8/2017 5:32 PM (#864443 - in reply to #864438)
Subject: RE: Summertime gliders




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I like gliders I can work fast in summer, I can work a hellhound in fast enough to keep up bucktail casters in the boat. Just know that you will likely miss >50% of the strikes moving a glider that fast.
Musky_Mo16
Posted 6/8/2017 5:42 PM (#864444 - in reply to #864443)
Subject: RE: Summertime gliders




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bbeaupre - 6/8/2017 5:32 PM

I like gliders I can work fast in summer, I can work a hellhound in fast enough to keep up bucktail casters in the boat. Just know that you will likely miss >50% of the strikes moving a glider that fast.


Do you normally use smaller or larger gliders in the summer? Of course I would like the fish to get the bait 100% of the time but with my experience fishing (bass and pike at least) it seems like when they miss the bait it makes them want to catch it that much more.
bbeaupre
Posted 6/8/2017 6:05 PM (#864447 - in reply to #864438)
Subject: RE: Summertime gliders




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It depends on the body of water and location. If Im fishing a large open area I like 10" phantoms, they work a little deeper. Over weeds the 10" hellhound and reg hellhound work best as they stay shallow. Bigger bait = bigger target but also = heavier so its much easier for the fish to throw the hooks.

Walk the dog baits are super addictive for the crazy aggressive strikes and to me its still really cool to see a musky smash a lure at full speed even if they do miss or miss the hooks. If you like glider try tossing some topwaters its even more addictive... and frustrating.

You will also see that the fish try to headhunt the lure and many times will leave you with an empty net and a bent leader.
tyler k
Posted 6/8/2017 6:28 PM (#864451 - in reply to #864438)
Subject: Re: Summertime gliders




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Location: Almond, WI
I generally like smaller gliders year round. They're great in summer cold fronts or anytime fish are there but not responding to straight line baits like bucktails. Change up the rhythm and give pauses.
muletrain
Posted 6/9/2017 6:56 AM (#864490 - in reply to #864438)
Subject: RE: Summertime gliders




Posts: 173


Location: Probably Minnesota that time...
Flat calm sunny conditions, a slender, heavy round style glider with no plastic tail, need a hook there instead, and make it a 3 hook model. Not a lot of pauses, more pure speed, get it jumping & darting all over the place like a fleeing baitfish. They don't miss as often as you'd think they should. When you connect, they are coming to to kill it! Score!
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 6/9/2017 7:15 AM (#864493 - in reply to #864443)
Subject: RE: Summertime gliders





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Location: St. Lawrence River
bbeaupre - 6/8/2017 6:32 PM

I like gliders I can work fast in summer, I can work a hellhound in fast enough to keep up bucktail casters in the boat. Just know that you will likely miss >50% of the strikes moving a glider that fast.


I would like to see this lol.....
muletrain
Posted 6/9/2017 11:20 AM (#864509 - in reply to #864493)
Subject: RE: Summertime gliders




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Location: Probably Minnesota that time...
I don't think he is too far off, If we are using the same caliber reels. It is much easier to achieve this speed with a short rod, yep old school.
bllhogg
Posted 6/9/2017 12:03 PM (#864514 - in reply to #864438)
Subject: Re: Summertime gliders




phantom soft tails will walk back and forth pretty far when you burn them in on a straight retrieve... i'm sure other gliders do too
Musky_Mo16
Posted 6/9/2017 1:16 PM (#864519 - in reply to #864514)
Subject: Re: Summertime gliders




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bllhogg - 6/9/2017 12:03 PM

phantom soft tails will walk back and forth pretty far when you burn them in on a straight retrieve... i'm sure other gliders do too


Yep. This was sort of my thinking. It's not so much a walk the dog type movement but more of like a swimbait. Like a narrow S pattern.
ToddM
Posted 6/9/2017 1:44 PM (#864521 - in reply to #864438)
Subject: Re: Summertime gliders





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Location: oswego, il
Not all gliders are created equal. In the summer i like a fast glider one that moves quickly from point a to b. Some gliders move slow and some do not travel far. Give me one thats moves far and quick with a nice pause at each end.
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 6/9/2017 2:17 PM (#864523 - in reply to #864509)
Subject: RE: Summertime gliders





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Location: St. Lawrence River
muletrain - 6/9/2017 12:20 PM

I don't think he is too far off, If we are using the same caliber reels. It is much easier to achieve this speed with a short rod, yep old school.


Maybe. But you would literally have to be giving that rod taps at about the pace of a machine gun to keep up with my bucktail, in the summer lmao.. which would be awesome to watch someone do that for more than 10 mins!!
ulbian
Posted 6/9/2017 3:23 PM (#864526 - in reply to #864523)
Subject: Re: Summertime gliders




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The only time I don't use a glider is when they bounce on the ice.
muletrain
Posted 6/9/2017 3:54 PM (#864529 - in reply to #864523)
Subject: RE: Summertime gliders




Posts: 173


Location: Probably Minnesota that time...
Downward snap at the bottom of each revolution of the reel handle. No time for full swing just keep it moving fast. It brings forth violence. Yes it can be tiring, but so can burning blades and ripping Dawgs or Big cranks. I'm not saying you can pull that off all day nonstop. I'm just saying it works for me often enough at times when nothing else seems to.
Musky_Mo16
Posted 6/9/2017 4:25 PM (#864533 - in reply to #864529)
Subject: Re: Summertime gliders




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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't
So it sounds like speed is pretty important. Maybe not machine gun speed lol. But would mid size baits be a good starting point as far as size goes. Around 6-8 inches?
ToddM
Posted 6/9/2017 5:30 PM (#864539 - in reply to #864438)
Subject: Re: Summertime gliders





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Location: oswego, il
It really depends on the glider, some cannot do the speed. Modivators dart pretty quick, magic makers can too. I have some hr's for instance that are slow and others fast.
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