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Location: Central MN | Hi All -
I recently made the trip from central MN to West Virginia to pick up this Tuffy X-190 (which I found on this website, thank you!). I splashed it last weekend and played around with all of the electronics (360 Imaging, DI, SI and Talons). I would really appreciate some input on a couple of questions that I have. First of all, when I accelerate to get on plane, the boat really pulls to the left. The 200 Optimax is not equipped with a 'trim tab' and according to Mercury they do not even make one for this motor. The motor came with a 'Revolution 4' 21 pitch SS prop. I talked to a local prop expert in Brainerd, MN and he suggested that this prop may be too aggressive for this boat /motor. Any suggestions? Also, I had issues filling it with gas - I literally had to trickle feed the nozzle......took forever. I examined the fuel fill line entering the tank and there are no kinks, sharp turns, etc. The aluminum gas tank does have a welded 90 degree elbow on top of the tank, and I am thinking that this may be where the 'bottle neck' is. Anyone else experience similar symptoms?
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Location: Central MN | *****edit***** sorry -
Anyhow, I am new to this forum, but have been looking at boats and reading forums ON THIS SITE for a long time. |
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| Congrats on the purchase i love mine. As far as the hole shot make sure your motor is fully trimmed under, punch it as fast as you can then immediately start trimming it out, it will seem you you're trimming it out a lot but that's how they like to run FAST. When it comes to filling unfortunately you do have to take some time when filling them. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | As Chain Gang said, literally the minute you hit the throttle begin trimming up, as the boat speeds up and give the wheel a little 'bump' to the right as it gets close to airing out. Do the opposite when slowing down, trim down as you slow down. Are there any extra batteries in the boat? Are there two Talons on the boat? |
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Location: Central MN | Chain Gang, Steve -
Thank you, both for your input. Out of the hole, I had the motor trimmed down all the way. It sounds like I may need to be quicker at trimming up on the hole shot. As far as batteries are concerned, there are 3 in the bow (under the rod locker) and the one cranking battery in the rear port side. There are Talons on both sides of the boat - perhaps worth mentioning- the Humminbird 360 unit is also port side. I find it hard to believe that this little bit of weight would have any impact on what I have described (Perhaps I am out of line to think as such?). Chain Gang - which prop do you run and on what motor? I will get it out on the water again this weekend to try what you have recommended. Again, thank you both - getting REAL feedback promptly is what makes this such a great resource. I was fearing that my username would have a tendency to shy some of you folks away!!!! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | You have the correct prop. The extra weight outboard to port rear corner will add a little to the issue like a teeter-totter as an example, trimming up will help immensely. Make certain there is nothing hitting the water on either side, a clean running bottom is important. |
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| the extra weight can make even more of a difference but not with your symptoms. i have a feeling its just a couple more days away from you mastering its behavior to compensate. |
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Location: Central MN | Fishysam-
Thank you. Honestly, I have only had it in the water for about 1-2 hours. In that time I probably tried 4-5 hole shots. I am anticipating getting it wet again this weekend to try the recommended motor trimming immediately after going to wide open throttle. |
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| Also once on plane feather the trim in either direction to get optimized stearing. If not it will be very tough to steer. Once you find the sweet spot hold on and enjoy. I'll PM you my number and you can call or text me any questions. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Bassturd - 4/5/2017 12:36 PM
Fishysam-
Thank you. Honestly, I have only had it in the water for about 1-2 hours. In that time I probably tried 4-5 hole shots. I am anticipating getting it wet again this weekend to try the recommended motor trimming immediately after going to wide open throttle.
This is important, start trimming up as you accelerate no matter how fast (or slow) you hit the throttle. If you go to full throttle before trimming up you will bury the hull and correcting it to airing out will be....difficult. |
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Location: Nowheresville, MN | My amateur opinion is your wheel too big. I'm turning a 19 Rev4 on a 200 HPDI. Learning how to drive the rig is definitely important, but it still does not fix the setup. If you can't drive the boat with minimal effort the setup is not good. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | tfootstalker - 4/5/2017 2:59 PM
My amateur opinion is your wheel too big. I'm turning a 19 Rev4 on a 200 HPDI. Learning how to drive the rig is definitely important, but it still does not fix the setup. If you can't drive the boat with minimal effort the setup is not good.
He should be taching correctly with that wheel on that hull unless he's running very heavy, if not dropping to a 19 will not change the need to trim the ride out as one accelerates. Definitely likes the Rev 4 or Bravo to get the hull back end up out of the water. Think lift, gear case drag, and prop torque.
There's very little running surface in the water aired out, just the last 10" of pad or so, and the rig has a built in set-back. Ive owned 3 of them with a 175 on the first and 200 on the next two. The boat likes trim and can quickly plane out trimmed out 4 or 5 degrees. It isn't a big deep V, it's a high performance hull with a multi-species interior. |
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Location: Central MN | This weekend I will pay attention to my tach when on plane at optimum trim. I will write back afterward with my findings - thank you for your input. |
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Location: Lake St. Clair | First off, congrats on your new rig, you will love it! I had a 2012 and ran it for 2.5 years and it was an absolute dream ride, once I figured it out! Haha. These boats are designed to RUN and feathering your trim is the biggest part of a nice level ride. It took me a couple trips to get mine perfected. All the way down, punch it and immediately start feathering that trim up. The boat should level right out and run like a dog with his A** on fire! Before I figured out this process mine would lean pretty hard too. Like every new boat, it will take a little bit of tweaking and time behind the wheel to get it right. I have now moved onto a 2100 and am in the process of breaking it in and learning all the same things over again. Good luck and enjoy that ride!! |
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Location: Central MN | WWH -
thank you for your comments - everyone has been suggesting the same advice for the hole shot - i am going to spend some time behind the wheel this weekend! good luck with your new rig - those things look awesome! |
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Location: Central MN | Hi guys -
I had my boat in the water today on Lake Alexander - trimming up immediately after WOT on the hole shot helped immensely on the pull to the left. I was able to get her up to 57MPH running ~5500RPM. I think I could do a little better on the high end if I find the sweet spot with the trim. Admittedly, I am not all too concerned about top end - 57MPH is more than fast enough for me. The ride is definitely smooth, solid and dry! Thank you all for your input on this. |
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