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Location: Willoughby, Ohio | PA and Ohio are considering raising the hp limit on Pymatuning Reservoir from the current 10 hp to 18 and perhaps 25. Unfortunately, that will open the door for PWCs to invade the lake. Pymatuning is one of only two 10 hp muskie lakes in NE Ohio and the only 10 hp muskie lake in PA. There are other muskie lakes around but the amount of PWC and speedboat traffic makes for a very uncomfortable and somewhat dangerous experience. I realize that optimally, a speed limit with unrestricted hp would allow the most anglers to enjoy the lake, but neither OH nor PA have the $$$ to commit to enforcing speed limits. Please take a look at our petition and sign if you'd like. Thanks! http://www.petitiononline.com/PYMAHP/petition.html |
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Location: Jamestown, Pa. | Hey wormdrowner,
I just realized you are from Willoughby,
I lived in Willoughby and Wickliffe in the late sixties and early seventies. I was maintanance manager at the Willoughby Plaza in late sixties also worked at Chase Brass & Copper on East 260 at that time.
Anyway, I will certainly sign the petition to help keep the Tuning safe to fishThere has been great discussion here in Jamestown and surrounding Communities about the HP increase. The boat stores are all for it ( really to sell more exspensive equipment and motors). We don't need the PWC's in this lake. And I am sure there will more drownings and boat accidents if they do increase the HP. The lake is just too shallow to allow this. |
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Location: in the white boat | I don't fish there, but I'll gladly sign the petition if there's a chance it will prevent jet-skiers from harassing my fellow muskie nuts. |
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Location: NeverNever Lake | I'm not sure if they even make a jet ski under 25hp anymore but I have mixed feelings on this one. I think raising limits across the board is a great idea if only it would be that anything over 10hp is a 4 stroke. Alot of folks won't buy 4 strokes because of the power/weight ratio. This incentive would be good for the fisherperson as well as the enviroment.
I'm all over the stocking petition though. |
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Location: Willoughby, Ohio | Believe me, Raze1, if there were a feasible way to allow increased HP without the lake turning into a zoo, I wouldn't oppose it. Unfortunately, that isn't the case right now. As far as the jet-ski hp question, the hp is measured at the jet, not the actual engine hp. |
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Location: Willoughby, Ohio | Stan, Back when you were in Willoughby, I was just a young pup in Kirtland. I now live next to the "sheep lady" on Euclid Ave. Spent almost 26 years exiled to Texas in between. |
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Location: NeverNever Lake | I see Wormie! I just fished there last Sunday for the first time ever. Beautiful Lake! There was a festival going on down at the dam area. Ketch and I motored over, beached, and had some barbecued chicken w/corn, baked beans on the boat. We were on our way home from Chautauqua and decided to go there. A good first impression is a lasting one. Can't wait to go back.
Ketch razed the only fish that day!
By raising the limit to 25hp, does that mean that Jet Ski's will qualify and the lake will become a zoo? If the answer is yes, I will sign the petition. |
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Location: Willoughby, Ohio | The proposal as it currently stands is 18 hp but it is my understanding that there is some consideration of going to 25 in the future. As far as PWC hp goes, it is my understanding that the ones that are rented at some of the state park marinas (e.g. West Branch) would be allowed under the hp limit. I know that Atwood Lake has a 20 hp limit and it is not uncommon to see older PWC on that lake as they squeak in under the limit. Everyone, please don't forget the muskie stocking petition as well! http://www.petitiononline.com/PYMAMUSK/petition.html
Edited by Worm Drowner 8/3/2003 10:15 PM
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Location: NeverNever Lake | I'm grabbing my cyber pen now.............
Wow, there's more signatures on the HP than on the stocking petition
Edited by RAZE1 8/3/2003 10:23 PM
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Location: Chagrin Falls, Ohio | Here we go again... Well this is my viewpoint. I know that some of you will jump on me for it but here it goes... Keeping jet-skis off the lake with H.P. limits is ridiculous. That keeps anglers off the lake, including myself and I'm not happy about it. It's a beautiful lake that I want to fish, but my 200 will keep me off forever. Is this right? My money is going there as much as anyone else's, so why shouldn't I be able to utilize that fishery? I think we're approaching the problem from the wrong direction. We have to hit it from a different angle, which is managing the situation with Jet-Skis and pleasure boaters with no clue as to even who has the right of way. That would ensure safety along with speed limits. Maybe we could start with mandatory written and driving tests, no grandfather clause, everybody has to take it to get a boater's license. I understand that this is going to be complicated, but it's the right way. There are numerous ways to pay for that and we can even get into how it could create jobs in a struggling economy if we have to go there. I'm tired of not being able to fish lakes in this state that should be rated reasonably for their size. Pymatuming is plenty big enough to go with a 250 rating. Is it going to cause more accidents? Not if we take the appropriate steps to ensure safety. And don't tell me that they can't afford it. Strictly enforced speed limits alone would ensure safety, and stiff fines would pay for it easily. I know this post sounds angry, and I am a bit about it. I'm just calling for reason rather than reactionary steps that don't make sense. Also, don't forget that these paths we fisherman are blazing to keep certain people off the lake can be used very easily by special interest groups like PETA that will keep all of us off the lake. Good fishin, Tyler Campbell |
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Location: Washington, PA | I really dont' think that it's gonna turn into a zoo. Maybe with 25hp, but PA raised most of there's, to 18, and I have yet to see any jet skiiers. Not sure how I feel about this one. Remember our day on the tune Worm Drowner? Would have been nice to be able to get off the water quicker!
Edited by tomyv 8/4/2003 9:09 AM
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Location: Alsip, Il | What about just a speed limit of 10mph. or alittle higher? Al |
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Location: Willoughby, Ohio | As I've previously stated, If we could have a workable way to increase hp without things getting out of hand, that would be fine. Right now, neither PA nor OH is going to allocate the manpower to enforce a speed limit. The only speed limited lake in Ohio (that I am aware of) is Clear Fork. The thing is, that lake is administered by the City of Mansfield. They have their own people to enforce the speed limit. I have the opposite problem that many of you with larger motors have. With my 9.9, my top speed is barely 7mph. I'd love to put a larger motor on my boat. I live 2.5 miles from Lake Erie and there's no way I'll get out on that lake without a larger motor. It would take me over two hours to run the length of Chautauqua as well. I keep the smaller motor on my boat so I can enjoy those restricted lakes without worry of speedboaters and pwcs. If I want to hit the larger lakes, I find a buddy with a larger motor and return the favor when we hit restricted water. It's unfortunate that hp limits are needed. Ideally, if people would show some courtesy, we wouldn't need them.
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