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moondog
Posted 2/24/2017 2:49 PM (#850958)
Subject: high hours on a outboard motor




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I am slowly looking a getting a different boat. I here everyone talking about how many hours are on a outboard motor. So my question is how many hours on a motor is considered high hours?
Fishysam
Posted 2/24/2017 4:12 PM (#850962 - in reply to #850958)
Subject: Re: high hours on a outboard motor




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I'm not sure yet. But I have 68 hours on my boat after 100 uses... I fish inland lakes with runs 6 miles or less. So in ten years I may have 680? I've only blew one motor up and that was after 18 years of use... Two stroke some where around 500 I'd say is getting high depending on maintenance only as required vs preventive. I'd say 1200 hours 4 or 2 stroke that was treated right.

Could be way off but that's what I'm thinking as of now.
short STRIKE
Posted 2/24/2017 9:10 PM (#850993 - in reply to #850958)
Subject: Re: high hours on a outboard motor





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Location: Blaine, MN
I've got 600 hours on my 08 2s, with the maintenance I have done, it's the exact same motor it was at hour 1, 100, 200 etc.
Top H2O
Posted 2/25/2017 6:58 PM (#851080 - in reply to #850993)
Subject: Re: high hours on a outboard motor




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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
What do "Busy" Guides put on a motor per season?
And do they use that motor for more than a season or 2, or 3.
I put on 800+ hrs. on a 200 V-Max in 6yrs.
I would assume that a busy guide would put on something like 700-1,100 hrs. on a motor a yr. Unless he guides on smaller lakes.
muskyhunter47
Posted 2/25/2017 7:49 PM (#851088 - in reply to #851080)
Subject: Re: high hours on a outboard motor




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Location: Minnesota
I have a 2012 I have 205 hrs on it .had it check out last fall before putting it in storage

Edited by muskyhunter47 2/25/2017 7:50 PM
esoxfly
Posted 2/25/2017 11:26 PM (#851108 - in reply to #850958)
Subject: Re: high hours on a outboard motor





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Location: Kodiak, AK
Depends on the motor and use. And this gets asked a lot, so your question is valid. I have almost 700 hrs on a motor from 2009, but I put 200 hrs a year on it for a few years, moved and then put 100 on it in four because of where and how I fished. A new four stroke can go thousands of hours with proper car and being run right. You can also look at compression numbers, documentation of scheduled maintenance and just how it looks...if the fuel/water separator looks like crap (or doesn't exist) that'd be a clue. If the wiring looks like crap, that'd be a clue. If you ask about filter and plug changes and the guys said, "plugs?" that might be a clue.
WiscoEsox94
Posted 2/26/2017 1:31 PM (#851169 - in reply to #850958)
Subject: Re: high hours on a outboard motor




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Is it possible to check the hours on a 1999 mercury 175 efi? Looking at a buying a rig with that motor on it and plan on doing a compression test but hours would be nice to know as well...
anzomcik
Posted 2/27/2017 11:55 AM (#851269 - in reply to #850958)
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Also not all hours are equal, if two exact motors both have 100 hours on them. One motor ran at 1,000 rpm for all 100 hours, the other at 6,000 rpm for the entire 100 hours one would suspect that the motor with the 6,000 rpm hours have more wear to it. I am not saying it is 6x the wear but a motor has only so many revolutions it can complete before something wearing out.
wisskie
Posted 2/27/2017 12:35 PM (#851275 - in reply to #850958)
Subject: Re: high hours on a outboard motor


I own a 2012 Opti 150 XS. I purchased this used boat in February of 2015. It had 450 hours on it when I bought it. Got it serviced after I bought it and they scoped the cylinders, checked compression etc. When they do hours on newer motors the computer breaks it down in RPM Ranges. 80% of my hours were in the 0 to 1,500 RPM range. Mechanic said lower RPM's on 2 strokes are worse than higher RPM's. Cylinders showed it with carbon build up so he instructed me to run the boat as much as possible in the 5,000 to 5,500 which for me is hard because most lakes near me are smaller and I do not like going 65 MPH in a boat. So far motor has run good but I feel like i'm sitting in a ticking time bomb every time on the water.

Edited by wisskie 2/27/2017 12:37 PM
sworrall
Posted 2/27/2017 12:47 PM (#851278 - in reply to #851275)
Subject: Re: high hours on a outboard motor





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
wisskie - 2/27/2017 12:35 PM

I own a 2012 Opti 150 XS. I purchased this used boat in February of 2015. It had 450 hours on it when I bought it. Got it serviced after I bought it and they scoped the cylinders, checked compression etc. When they do hours on newer motors the computer breaks it down in RPM Ranges. 80% of my hours were in the 0 to 1,500 RPM range. Mechanic said lower RPM's on 2 strokes are worse than higher RPM's. Cylinders showed it with carbon build up so he instructed me to run the boat as much as possible in the 5,000 to 5,500 which for me is hard because most lakes near me are smaller and I do not like going 65 MPH in a boat. So far motor has run good but I feel like i'm sitting in a ticking time bomb every time on the water.


Sea Foam.
curleytail
Posted 2/27/2017 1:58 PM (#851294 - in reply to #850958)
Subject: Re: high hours on a outboard motor




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Location: Hayward, WI
I read about this when I bought a boat with a 2008 75 Yamaha 4 stroke with over 600 hours on it a couple years ago. Most things I read said they are rated at about 2,000 hours before they should require any kind of major maintenance work. Not before they are shot - just before something might need to be done.

I had a shop run compression tests on mine and everything was in spec. I also had them run an RPM report and many were around 4,000 rpm or in the low - just above idling range. Basically the previous owner was very easy on the motor and almost NEVER ran it at full throttle.

I decided to buy the boat and the motor has run like a top the last two years and I've fully trusted taking it to wherever I felt like going on two trips to LOTW.

If you look at a motor with 500+ hours I would say try to get a good feel for the owner, have a shop check it out, pay attention to the general appearance of the whole package to try to determine if the owner took good care of, or beat his equipment up.
wisskie
Posted 2/27/2017 2:56 PM (#851304 - in reply to #850958)
Subject: Re: high hours on a outboard motor


I agree with curlytail. If you are buying a motor with hours on the high end have the current owner take it to a shop and get the compression checked and the cylinders scoped before buying. Actually not a bad idea on any used motor but especially if the hours are high.

I think the shop charged me around $400.00 for hours and cylinder scope.

Edited by wisskie 2/27/2017 2:57 PM
NathanH
Posted 2/27/2017 6:59 PM (#851355 - in reply to #851304)
Subject: Re: high hours on a outboard motor





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Location: MN
I want to say when I talked to a Yamaha etc he told me about 1500 to 2000 hours is what you get out of them based on how you run it. Then at that point they will need work on the powerhead.

Edited by NathanH 2/27/2017 7:00 PM
Jeremy
Posted 2/28/2017 6:06 PM (#851539 - in reply to #850958)
Subject: Re: high hours on a outboard motor




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Location: Minnesota.
I ran a '97 115HP 2 stroke Yammy reasonably hard (TC lakes and 3 wks on the V) for 15 yrs. Changed plugs, lower unit oil etc. fogged it over winter and ran Sea Foam thru a couple tanks ea. season and stored w/Sea Foam.....nary a single issue!

Hope I can say the same with a newer '12 150 4 stroker....so far so good.

Edited by Jeremy 2/28/2017 6:09 PM
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