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| Looking for a couple road holders for trolling. Lund Pro Guide 1875.
Any suggestions or advice?
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Location: South Central Wisconsin | Down east, or Folbes... |
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Location: NE Ohio | look at fat az rod holders with the down east s10's, very good stuff!!!! |
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Location: Tennessee | Folbes |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i've replaced all down easters with folbe's. i have a pair of black powder-coated down easters i'm getting rid of ... to me after using folbe's the de's are a pain in the ash |
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Location: West Central Wisconsin | Folbes |
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Location: SE, WI. | Get the Folbes if you run slower speeds, smaller baits, and dunk suckers.
Get the down east if you want to run all kinds of baits, big blades, and large cranks, with some faster speeds...
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Location: oswego, il | I run Scotty rod holders. Never had an issue in 18 years, running larger lures and big boards in big waves. Easy in and out. You can hold the rod and place with both hands, which is not possible with another popular brand and no fun with a big board holding the rod with one hand. They don't stick, ever.
Edited by ToddM 9/5/2016 8:53 AM
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Location: 31 | I think there is simply a lack of understanding on how to use a Down East because once they are set up correctly they are very easy to use. The problem I see most beginners make is not taking the pressure off of the rod before trying to remove it from the holder because it’s nearly impossible to remove a rod from a DE if you don’t remove the pressure first.
I use the rail mount model exclusively because you can quickly rotate the DE/rod in and out of the water with very little effort. This is important for my style of fishing because I can bury the rod tip almost 90° straight down along side the boat and not worry about it popping out of the holder, then easily rotate the rod out of the water or adjust the angle to better control the depth of the lure in just a few seconds. I've been using the DE for years, and can easily check and return a short line down rod using only one hand... doesn't get much easier than that.
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Location: oswego, il | Jerry we will have to agree to disagree. Tried them, understand relieving the pressure removing the rod but the setting the rod is a one hand operation and with a tx44 board not fun. My friend teathers his rods because he has had his down rods pop out. Too much work around for me. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | even when taking the pressure off there are times they don't want to detent into position when placing a rod ... silly tricks on using vs get the effing rod in and out quick. down-easters have been beaten hands down by tubes and folbe's. not to mention educating a guest on how to grab a rod ... i like being able to just say "hey, grab that rod" and be done with the discussion. |
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Location: Waukee, IA | I run Scotty's in my boat. Haven't had a muskie or reef break one yet. The ease of use is a big draw, not saying any other brand is difficult, but slide in and slide out is pretty simple. |
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Location: 31 | There is definitely a learning curve with the DE, or any rod holder or specialty type equipment for that matter, so it probably just comes down to personal preference. I've seen beginners really struggle with them, and even seasoned veterans who are not familiar with them have the same issues you're talking about. However, I suspect that if you did a couple days with me, using a DE would become second nature for you too.
Interestingly enough I was fishing with a guy for the first time yesterday who recently put DE’s on his boat and asked for a few pointers. Long story short; without much instruction he was “almost” no problem by the end of the day. Kind of a funny moment was when I mentioned this thread to him and that I can pull, check, and return a short line down rod with only one hand… he called me out on it.
I immediately left the wheel and grabbed a down rod by the rear grip and rotated it out of the water, popped it out of the holder leaving the DE open, lifted the bait to the surface, returned the rod to the holder, and then rotated the rod back into the water and returned to the wheel in about 20 seconds. His comment; “How did you do that (so fast)”.
As the day progressed he mentioned that he really liked the way we could instantly adjust the angle of the down and board rods, and also REALLY liked winding in the boards while the rod was still in holder. I know it only takes a few minutes to put on rod holders, but I have nine of them and the idea of taking them on and off and stowing them doesn't appeal to me. With the DE they stay in place full time and the travel cover goes on and off no problem, even with casting the low-profile design of the rail mount DE is almost a nonissue.
If I didn't do much trolling, or did a lot of sucker fishing I might not use the DE, same deal with guides, or if you fish with a lot of newbies. However, I’ve seen nothing that compares to the quickness and ease of a DE, and IMHO just because you guys struggle with them doesn't mean everyone else will… and vice versa. |
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Location: 31 | ToddM - 9/5/2016 8:57 AM
Jerry we will have to agree to disagree. Tried them, understand relieving the pressure removing the rod but the setting the rod is a one hand operation and with a tx44 board not fun. My friend teathers his rods because he has had his down rods pop out. Too much work around for me.
I have a set of the TX44 boards and don't use them because they are harder (and slower) to bring in and out... make me an offer Todd.
The reason your friend had them pop out is because they were not seated properly.
Edited by Jerry Newman 9/7/2016 11:22 AM
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| Used Folbes and Down east and Down east hands down. I have had down east rail mounts for years...Very easy to use only downfall is some triggers don't clear but other than some pin wear after years of use i don't think there is a tougher one out there. For plastic for sure the Folbes. They are built well but i know of one busting off also (locked down drag and rock so operator error)so they aren't foolproof. Folbes easier on the cork and just as easy to pull rod out of if not easier than down easters. I like the piece of mind of the powder coated cast design versus plastic/composite if you hook a rock and your drag is accidentally locked down and spend a bunch of time in real cold weather in the fall. |
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| I recommend the down east rod holders. They are very easy to use, when you grab the rod, simply move it slightly so it's not putting pressure on holder and lift straight up. There is a lot of really neat ways to mount them also, my favorite being on a Cisco or fat az mount on a track. Both allow you to lift the rod tip up by pushing down on the rod handle while leaving the rod in the holder to quickly adjust lure depth or shake off weeds. The down east mounted on a Cisco mount would give you the most rod angle adjustments.
Edited by Putts 9/8/2016 1:15 AM
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Location: 31 | It's vital to the way I fish to be able to easily rotate a rod holder in and out of the water to remove the tremendous pressure that's created with a rod tip buried 5-6’ under the surface at 4 MPH. Like Todd mentioned; even the pressure created with his big boards can make it difficult to get the rod back in the holder. The best/easiest way that I’ve found is to set the rod in the holder while the line is still paying out, or pull the rod several feet forward to remove the pressure before dropping it in the holder.
Also, if you're running a typical 6 line spread and your buddy is pulling/checking the outside board rod while leaving the inside board rod in place, you can turn the boat away from the board for a few seconds to create a better angle between the boat and board to wind it in. Bringing in the entire side in my boat to check the outside board for weeds is unacceptable.
I’ve trolled past plenty of other boats and watched them needlessly fight these situations when there are easier/less frustrating ways to get the job done faster.
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