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sworrall |
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Posts: 32880 Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Revo Toro Rocket 'Raising the bar on speed and power 7 stainless bearings High speed retrieve Carbon Matrix Drag system Active response drag mechanism X-Craftic DuragearHeavt Duty gears InfiniMax braking system Aluminum spool Ti coated line guide 3 handles REALLY nice bigger handle knobs 7.6:1 Rocket Gear Ratio 250 yards 14# test line capacity 285 yards of 30# braid 25# drag 42" per turn 14.6 ounces 8 bearings Right Had retrieve Available July 15 We fished the reel last night and were very impressed. It's fast, and the feel is Beast, only faster. Pulling double 8s, there was a noticeable difference between the Beast high speed the the Rocket. It just plain pulls easier and of course faster. Abu assures in the 2017 catalog it's designed to pull large muskie baits. We'll be tossing double 10s with the reel an entire evening soon on a 9' rod; I threw one for a half hour on a Beast 8' rod, and was pleasantly surprised. It's a winner if you want speed and power in a compact, easy to palm design. Attachments ---------------- DSCF6486.jpg (135KB - 447 downloads) DSCF6487.jpg (129KB - 445 downloads) DSCF6489.jpg (162KB - 445 downloads) DSCF6490.jpg (136KB - 468 downloads) | ||
muskysaloon |
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Posts: 58 | It pulls baits easier than the Beast HS? I was planning on getting a Beast HS for medium sized cranks and double 8's and smaller blades. Maybe I should wait for this to come out!?? | ||
JakeStCroixSkis |
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Posts: 1425 Location: St. Lawrence River | I figured it would pull blades fast and hard?? | ||
tkuntz |
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Posts: 815 Location: Waukee, IA | The physics of fast and easy simply doesn't work in my brain, but I have never tried this reel. | ||
curleytail |
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Posts: 2687 Location: Hayward, WI | I'm also curious about faster and easier. Does it have longer handles than the regular Beast? Is the main difference between this reel and the Beast a higher gear ratio or are there other design features that set it apart? | ||
tkuntz |
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Posts: 815 Location: Waukee, IA | curleytail - 6/8/2016 8:02 AM I'm also curious about faster and easier. Does it have longer handles than the regular Beast? Is the main difference between this reel and the Beast a higher gear ratio or are there other design features that set it apart? Physical specs match the Beast HS (ABU website for beast specs vs what Steve posted for rocket) with the obvious exception of gear ratio/IPT. He said the handles were slightly different also. Otherwise the bearing count, Max drag, physical weight, line capacity and frame all seem to be the same as the Beast, which makes sense from a business POV for ABU. | ||
curleytail |
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Posts: 2687 Location: Hayward, WI | tkuntz - 6/8/2016 8:16 AM curleytail - 6/8/2016 8:02 AM I'm also curious about faster and easier. Does it have longer handles than the regular Beast? Is the main difference between this reel and the Beast a higher gear ratio or are there other design features that set it apart? Physical specs match the Beast HS (ABU website for beast specs vs what Steve posted for rocket) with the obvious exception of gear ratio/IPT. He said the handles were slightly different also. Otherwise the bearing count, Max drag, physical weight, line capacity and frame all seem to be the same as the Beast, which makes sense from a business POV for ABU. Yup. Steve actually said the handle knobs were different in one of his more recent posts, which seems like it would make little difference in actual ease of use. It appeared they were essentially the same reel as the Beast but with higher gearing, which is why being faster yet easier isn't making sense to me. That's why I was wondering if there was some other difference we didn't know about. Probably the true test of "ease" will be fishing one for a day with double 9's or 10's. Most double 8's come in pretty easy regardless of gear ratio. I'm speculating it won't be the reel of choice for most for heavy double 10 use but time will tell. I'm sure it will be a sweet reel for guys that want an ultra fast reel for other purposes though - small bucktails, jerkbaits, rubber, etc. Not really something I have a need for (the HS Beast should be plenty fast for me), but interesting. I wonder if the gears would swap into the Beast or S. One would think they might. Tucker | ||
Emptynet |
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Posts: 398 Location: WI | Had me interested until I read right hand retrieve. Maybe in a couple years they'll offer a left hand crank model. | ||
sworrall |
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Posts: 32880 Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I found reeling fairly slowly blew the bucktail right out of the water last so reeling any faster wasn't an option unless I wanted the bait skipping across the water. I was very impressed with the reel, and can say with absolute certainty it controlled the big (8/10 blades) spinnerbaits I threw for awhile in the slop better than the Beast HS, and we tried them both back to back. Kept the bait on top better, got it going faster, and could blow the lure out. Fishing heavy cover where keeping the lure on track is critical was easy, the reel palms well, and is a silky caster. It'll be a great reel for rubber, too, line pick up is very fast. Perhaps it felt really good to me because reeling slower got the bait cooking very well, and in fact caused me to have to slow down several times to keep the bait in the water. The reel didn't bind, or get 'hard to reel'. As far as I know, there's two of these reels out there right now. We'll see what Jiggy has to say soon. The handles feel quite different, especially the grips. Keith commented that the handle was very comfortable, and I agree. Only 4 hours on her so far, but we'll get more, including a complete video showing how the reel performs very soon. | ||
FlyPiker |
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Posts: 386 | Sorry if I missed it but any idea on msrp? | ||
achotrod |
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Posts: 1283 | Will be a nice addition to my Collection. | ||
sworrall |
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Posts: 32880 Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | $399.00. Limited production for now. | ||
ToothTamer |
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Posts: 311 Location: Lake St.Clair | Lefty possibility? | ||
sworrall |
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Posts: 32880 Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Not discussed yet, but probably not ready for production. | ||
ToothTamer |
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Posts: 311 Location: Lake St.Clair | Darn..... I sure hope so | ||
johndtuttle |
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Posts: 78 | ToothTamer - 6/9/2016 3:06 PM Lefty possibility? Buy a Toro Beast in LH, drop in Rocket gears (when available). | ||
muskie! nut |
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Posts: 2894 Location: Yahara River Chain | johndtuttle - 6/10/2016 10:44 AM ToothTamer - 6/9/2016 3:06 PM Lefty possibility? Buy a Toro Beast in LH, drop in Rocket gears (when available). :) You do realize that the gears for a LH are not cut the same way as a RH eel? Therefore they are not interchangeable. If LH gears are available, then the Beast Rocket will be as well. Its not like Rocket 7.5 gears are currently made for the LH Revo Toro Beast now. | ||
johndtuttle |
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Posts: 78 | muskie! nut - 6/10/2016 11:11 AM johndtuttle - 6/10/2016 10:44 AM ToothTamer - 6/9/2016 3:06 PM Lefty possibility? Buy a Toro Beast in LH, drop in Rocket gears (when available). :) You do realize that the gears for a LH are not cut the same way as a RH eel? Therefore they are not interchangeable. If LH gears are available, then the Beast Rocket will be as well. Its not like Rocket 7.5 gears are currently made for the LH Revo Toro Beast now. You are absolutely right. | ||
Houlip |
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Posts: 7 Location: Neenah wi | When is the release date for this reel. And is it worth buying over the beast? Does it handle double 10s better than the low gear ratio? I have my winches that I love wanted to get a beast to get one. | ||
bbradley |
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Posts: 114 | Steve, Just out of curiosity why is this reel cheaper then the beast. Is it more of a bass reel. On the demo video they are throwing what looks to be like bass baits. You think a high speed reel such as the Rocket would draw a higher price tag. Are the parts in the Rocket not as good as the beast? I'm not complaining, just curious. | ||
upnortdave |
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Posts: 668 Location: mercer wi | You probly found the abu rocket. The new one Is a toro. Totally diffrent reels | ||
bbradley |
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Posts: 114 | Any idea on the price? | ||
sworrall |
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Posts: 32880 Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | $399.00. July 15 limited availability. | ||
bbradley |
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Posts: 114 | Thanks, will you only be able to get them on abu's site? | ||
upnortdave |
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Posts: 668 Location: mercer wi | So I read steve you will be testing this reel on a 9' rod. Could that be a white rod. If so, when could that hit market and any other new models. | ||
CnR_Angler |
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Posts: 62 Location: Madison, WI | I realize there is a limited release, but has anyone found anywhere to pre-order the Toro Rocket? | ||
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