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| So, you're saying there's a chance... that land may also be structure? Wood or plastic on the land as well? |
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84rqMzH4Nvw
apparently you use a tailing glove and simply walk out in the street.
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| Looks pretty featureless to me. |
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Location: Aurora | Or you can try casting down the street like Mehsikomer does in this video at about the 6:30 mark. Notice the tree-lined neighbourhood roadbed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzY3N51Xr0g&list=PLF6lBdd7gK9FTnuJsy...
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| Do you see any damage Russ? |
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | LOL- This one went south fast! Back on topic.......
ToddM - I know a lot of your fish use air as structure to escape from your lure's
too!
Crazysoxfan - Yes, muskies definitely use man-made structure's..The link you posted has precise GPS coordinates for all the locations and man-made structure types. They all will likely attract muskie forage fish. Pick some and give them a shot..
If it were me, I'd also ask one of the guy's whom fish there regularly, like Tony Grant, Gregg Thomas. Sadly Crash is gone, but you can check with his son Justin, the apple probably didn't fall to far from the tree.
Muskies also use natural structures, downed tree's, submerged rocks, etc. Yes, the shoreline is also structure (another environmental limit) F.ex. The Cave fish also spawn, so during pre-spawn,spawn, and post-spawn they are not likely going to be on cribs or man-made structure. They also will follow the forage to forage spawning area's...so time of year can be critical, the man-made structures may not be holding many or any muskies.
Lastly, you need to understand the Cave is a man-made lake, much like the Petenwell and Castle Rock here in Central WI. The lake pool levels are highly variable depending on time of year, etc. It looks like its ~10' above winter pool and ~4' above summer pool today.
http://lrl-apps.lrl.usace.army.mil/wc/reports/lkreport.html
For the rest of you guys, another tool I use....
http://corpslakes.usace.army.mil/visitors/projects.cfm?Id=H202780
Have fun!
Al
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| Al makes some sense, followed by more cringing by Buck/Jerry/Will.
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Location: Ames, Iowa | On the lake I fish I'd consider thermocline structure too. Imagine musky fishermen getting all wizzy over semantics. Only in March. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | This has to be one of the strangest threads of the year.
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| Jerome, find some work down thare and lets go find what structures work best. |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Boots Electric - 3/2/2016 2:27 PM Al makes some sense, followed by more cringing by Buck/Jerry/Will. The reason I said "cringe" is because the terms were defined many years ago but are rarely used correctly in print, on television shows, or by most anglers.
djwilliams - 3/3/2016 10:54 AM On the lake I fish I'd consider thermocline structure too. Imagine musky fishermen getting all wizzy over semantics. Only in March. A thermocline is a breakline and fish will use them as such. It's not semantics. Analogy: Calling a stop sign an intersection. A stop sign might be located at an intersection but a stop sign is never an intersection. You can call it what you want, I'm going to stick with what I learned as a kid from the fathers of modern angling like Al Linder, Ron Linder, Buck Perry, Spence Petros. . To understand structure fishing and what good structure is, allows us to fish smarter and catch more an bigger fish.
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Location: Ames, Iowa | I agree. |
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | I'll stick with the classic defintion of structure. Its easier and gives one the freedom to think outside the box...so many structure's that fish uses at various times. The lake bottom itself is a structural limit, as is the surface.. the water itself has various structural elements to it, including thermalclines, current break's, learning to use them is the trick, because fish do use them. A school of cisco's or shad has structural elements, so in my mind I treat it as natural structure that predators relate to also..
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie...
Just two simple concepts: 1. Natural structure 2. Manmade structure. Both have unlimited possibilities for variance. He asked a valid question, at least one could provide a valid response w/o digressing into the minutia of who defined the terms we use today in the fishing world. Understanding how & when fish relate to them is the real trick..
Breaklines in the classic sense are natural structure, some are fixed, others appear & disappear.
Good luck down at the Cave!
Have fun!
Al
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Any body of water one is learning/already knows needs to broken down in the mind 'less the water'. Seeing the water below the boat in the mind's eye as a three D image will dramatically improve one's understanding of how and why the fish move throughout the water column and utilize the 'structure' seasonally and daily. Think deer hunting. The only real difference is one can walk right up to and look at the 'structure' deer use daily.
When fishing a weedline, for example, I 'see' it as one would see a hedgerow in a field. Reading the water based upon what the sonar, my memory, and lots of experience as to the variables, puts me where the boat needs to be. Some places I need a GPS, but most not after fishing them enough, similar to my truck GPS. |
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| This is such an easy question in Chautauqua Lake which is literally a Musky factory. Just find the schools of yellow perch. Doesn't matter if the depth is 5' or 50' weeds or open water.
It's basically find the bait schools (which in this lake is millions of perch) and find the Musky's.
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| sworrall - 2/18/2016 8:59 AM
The structures Muskies like the best have food available.
x2 on that |
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