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| I'm familiar with the RIO OBS line for casting large bulky flies,but have no experience with the RIO musky line. Both have a aggressive front tapers but the line profiles are fairly different. Any advantage or disadvantages of one over the other for fishing pike/musky from a boat with large streamers and surface poppers? |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Outbound Short, no question. I haven't used a dedicated "pike/muskie" line since the 90's. Not saying a pike line isn't an option, just that with what, where and how I cast, I don't even shop for other lines because I know and love the Outbound so well. If I'm not casting heads open ocean, I'm casting an Outbound Short in one of it's configurations. And that pretty much encompasses all of my fishing....big flies, wind, heavy stuff. |
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Location: Between a 10wt fly rod and a XH dawg rod | I use a RIO OB on my 8/9 weight for big poopers and love it. I switch to a SA streamer express for the streamers on my 10wt. The sink on the streamer express does fantastic because the heavy line weight acts like a shooting head. That thing will cast massive 14 inch flies with ease. |
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| x3 on the outbound express for poppers/surface wake baits/sliders etc.
I really like the SA Wet Tip Express for chuckin' streamers, it has a Dacron type core which leads to less line coil than the SA Streamer Express or some of the comparable Rio, Cortland or Orvis lines I've used yet it still doesn't get too fluid or "sticky" in hot weather. |
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Location: Minnesota. | esoxfly - 3/10/2016 9:43 PM
Outbound Short, no question. I haven't used a dedicated "pike/muskie" line since the 90's. Not saying a pike line isn't an option, just that with what, where and how I cast, I don't even shop for other lines because I know and love the Outbound so well. If I'm not casting heads open ocean, I'm casting an Outbound Short in one of it's configurations. And that pretty much encompasses all of my fishing....big flies, wind, heavy stuff.
Interesting!!! I've never branched out from my old SA Pike/Muskie lines b/c I fish mostly topsides and not streamers.
I've taken to trying the "textured" lines too but find they take skin off my stripping finger w/o a finger cott.
Might have to look into the OB lines. Thank you! |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Jeremy - 3/15/2016 2:57 PM esoxfly - 3/10/2016 9:43 PM Outbound Short, no question. I haven't used a dedicated "pike/muskie" line since the 90's. Not saying a pike line isn't an option, just that with what, where and how I cast, I don't even shop for other lines because I know and love the Outbound so well. If I'm not casting heads open ocean, I'm casting an Outbound Short in one of it's configurations. And that pretty much encompasses all of my fishing....big flies, wind, heavy stuff. Interesting!!! I've never branched out from my old SA Pike/Muskie lines b/c I fish mostly topsides and not streamers. I've taken to trying the "textured" lines too but find they take skin off my stripping finger w/o a finger cott. Might have to look into the OB lines. Thank you! Pike lines aren't bad lines and I liken them to the Rio Clouser in that they're awesome on old "mainstream" esox flies; meaning the flies you buy at Cabela's in the Warmwater section when bunny strip flies reigned supreme and everyone casted to the reeds in back bays in the spring. Now, we're all throwing big articulated masses of materials and a lot of us are fishing big, open water. I consider myself a very decent caster, but the heavy and short head of the Outbound Short makes casting into the wind and with these flies all the easier. I don't need finesse and I don't need a soft lay out. And I like fast rods and I have a fast casting stroke so that head loads well for my casting. The Outbound is a rocket, and if anything, some guys make the mistake of making it the only fly line they buy. It does have it's limitations and places it doesn't work. But like I say, casting big water is pretty much all I do now, so I've got stacks and stacks of Outbounds ready to go for anything in the top 10-12' of the water column; generally speaking. If I'm dredging, I'm casting a T20 head, which is too heavy for most muskie applications.
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