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Location: minocqua, wi. | Marty ... in HS and College, I made my drinking money trimming cow feet ... our operation never seemed as detailed and finesse as those working Horse hooves though. did you consider hoof trimmers farriers? or was there a lesser grade attributed to them?
$15/head was the going rate back then. got schidt on over the shoulder moving some stubborn girls into the chute and learned how accurate a cow could be with a kick, even while standing on 3 legs!! ahh, those were the days!! |
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| Junkman - 2/25/2016 7:59 AM
Wouldn't be the worst idea for a separate thread on "The joy of playing a musky." Clearly not a joy for all parties in my view, and with needed adjustment for water temps and much else....but it might be a spirited discussion.
I don't know about you guys, but the day I stop having fun fighting fish I'm hanging up my musky hat and finding something else to do. A lot of guys fight muskies like they're on a timer set to expire at the 15 second mark. |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | esoxaddict - 2/25/2016 9:21 AM
Junkman - 2/25/2016 7:59 AM
Wouldn't be the worst idea for a separate thread on "The joy of playing a musky." Clearly not a joy for all parties in my view, and with needed adjustment for water temps and much else....but it might be a spirited discussion.
I don't know about you guys, but the day I stop having fun fighting fish I'm hanging up my musky hat and finding something else to do. A lot of guys fight muskies like they're on a timer set to expire at the 15 second mark.
Agreed. Even some of the mid 30s fish (northern WI, so no giants here) kick up a good fight from time to time. Trolling is a bit of a different story though. The few fish I trolled up this summer seemed to be more like reeling in a sack of potatoes. I guess the upside is you can do it with a beer in one hand. |
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1. No, a cow trimmer is not like a graduate farrier, just a farmer! 
2. Jeeeeeze, don't get erect about fighting fish, I certainly have no argument Jeff. It's totally fair to have the fun and excitement you paid for. There is just a real honest discussion to be had about when and where it's all appropriate and when it's not the wisest choice. Twenty minutes with a Cave Run Musky on 15lb test right this minute (February) will likely leave a fish tired but mostly unharmed (depending on the handling and release of course) while doing it with the same fish in shallow water in July will likely lead to a KY bar-b-que. It is what it is! Also, it's a world of difference doing what a skilled angler can do when it's the skilled angler doing it, than what an unskilled angler does with the information he reads. I think that's why so many are overly PC with the advice. Every floater cancels 1000 properly handled fish. |
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| Marty, I wasn't trying to start an argument - obviously we want them back in the water quickly and in one piece, and that becomes increasingly more crucial in warm water. That said, I prefer to put them in the net when they're ready. If that means letting them have another run, I'll enjoy the brief time with a fish on the end of the line. I don't think we're doing them any favors horsing them into the net green so they can go nuts, roll up in the line, hooks in the head and tangled in the bag, etc. It's worth a discussion to remind folks what can happen in warm water, having tools ready, not take 15 pictures, etc. |
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| tkuntz - 2/23/2016 5:41 AM
Gloves absolutely DO REMOVE SLIME COAT. No argument really needed, it's an accepted truth. The decision is yours to make, but I will never touch a fish with a glove to help prevent mortality via infection.
I use wet rubber coated gloves.. Your hands remove just as much slime - no argument. My decision since I often catch 15-20 muskies a week is to protect my own hands..not hurting the fish anymore or any less than a gloveless hand. |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | IAJustin - 2/25/2016 11:04 AM
I use wet rubber coated gloves.. Your hands remove just as much slime - no argument. My decision since I often catch 15-20 muskies a week is to protect my own hands..not hurting the fish anymore or any less than a gloveless hand.
15-20 a week ? Now there's a bonafide "Musky Guy"... |
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| I only wore a glove one day after putting a 7/0 hook through my hand in two places. |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | I would have worn a glove, but I didn't want to remove any slime from the fish.
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Location: varies | dfkiii - 2/25/2016 12:15 PM
IAJustin - 2/25/2016 11:04 AM
I use wet rubber coated gloves.. Your hands remove just as much slime - no argument. My decision since I often catch 15-20 muskies a week is to protect my own hands..not hurting the fish anymore or any less than a gloveless hand.
15-20 a week ? Now there's a bonafide "Musky guy"
His dadson must be nearing half- life at that rate. |
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| don't own a single dadson... Wouldn't be fair if I did, probably easier than sucker fishing  |
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Location: Contrarian Island | easier than saltwater fishing too! |
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Location: Minnesota. | dfkiii - 2/25/2016 12:39 PM
I would have worn a glove, but I didn't want to remove any slime from the fish.
Wow...I feel for you man. That looks terrible!!
It's also the reason I fish barbless -- except for spinnerbaits.
Jeremy. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | esoxaddict - 2/25/2016 9:21 AM
Junkman - 2/25/2016 7:59 AM
Wouldn't be the worst idea for a separate thread on "The joy of playing a musky." Clearly not a joy for all parties in my view, and with needed adjustment for water temps and much else....but it might be a spirited discussion.
I don't know about you guys, but the day I stop having fun fighting fish I'm hanging up my musky hat and finding something else to do. A lot of guys fight muskies like they're on a timer set to expire at the 15 second mark.
I want them in the net asap....has nothing to do with being worried about playing them and a health concern. Has everything to do with the bastards finding ways to come unglued and me wanting them landed before that happens |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | Jeremy - 2/25/2016 5:23 PM
dfkiii - 2/25/2016 12:39 PM
I would have worn a glove, but I didn't want to remove any slime from the fish.
Wow...I feel for you man. That looks terrible!!
It's also the reason I fish barbless -- except for spinnerbaits.
Jeremy.
It looked a bit "angrier" while I was connected to a 40" fish via a Pacemaker. Unfortunately, I wasn't really in a position to take a photo at that time.
Thank God for a handy pair of Knipex. |
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| dfkiii - 2/25/2016 12:39 PM
I would have worn a glove, but I didn't want to remove any slime from the fish.
Way to sacrifice man! Take one for the team!
Also, was it the cotton gloves that turned Michael white? |
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | I say the death grip on the tail...as the fish was clearly trying to swim away was the biggest problem....I have never once held any sort of fish that tight around the tail...he had a death grip on it as the fish's tail was trashing back and fourth trying to get away...I'm not buying what this video is trying to sell...show another video where the "angler" puts the fish in the water and just lets it go without a death grip.... |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | MikeHulbert - 2/29/2016 11:11 AM I'm not buying what this video is trying to sell...show another video where the "angler" puts the fish in the water and just lets it go without a death grip.... The video is attempting to show the damage that can be caused using a tailing glove to land fish, not release them. Using a tailing glove to land is a common practice with many species both fresh and saltwater.
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | Yet the OP appeared to be drawing a correlation between wearing gloves and resulting effect on the fish touched with said gloves.
Does anybody here use a "tailing glove" to land musky ? Maybe I'm old school, but a Frabil works just fine for me.
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | This is going to make me feel OLD... but I must be a little more old school. I fished many years without using a net because they were so hard on the fish. We hand landed, or water released, everything and tailing muskies was part of the process if we wanted a photo. The wrist of their tail, similar to a Chinook Salmon, doesn't require a tailing glove but it can be helpful. |
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Location: Ames, Iowa | http://www.iowasportsman.com/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=972705
I put this on the Biology forum a couple days ago |
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| I watched this about a week ago, Found it funny how this thread dried up so fast after this was posted. those Iowa fish must be a lot stronger than most fish you guys are talking about |
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