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Muskie Fishing -> Lures,Tackle, and Equipment -> Small Topwaters
 
Message Subject: Small Topwaters
NickD
Posted 1/21/2016 8:31 AM (#800609)
Subject: Small Topwaters




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What are your favorite small prop baits? I have the small size whopper plopper and it's ok but not my favorite.

Mini Choppers, mini lac seul from AHL??? Are Doctor Evils comparable size wise? Suick Nightwalker?
wisskie
Posted 1/21/2016 8:35 AM (#800610 - in reply to #800609)
Subject: Re: Small Topwaters


Suick Nightwalkers are smaller and have a decent plop.
Zinox
Posted 1/21/2016 12:08 PM (#800651 - in reply to #800609)
Subject: Re: Small Topwaters




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I just got the lac seul mini last season, haven't had much time with it, but the build quality is freaking awesome :D
Veithr3293
Posted 1/21/2016 4:00 PM (#800682 - in reply to #800609)
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Caught a lot of fish on my lack seul mini but if you are lucky enough to come by an ahl baby krybaebee i would recommend picking one up.
ToddM
Posted 1/21/2016 4:50 PM (#800692 - in reply to #800609)
Subject: Re: Small Topwaters





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Location: oswego, il
The mini lsc suel has a nice plop and if you have one that squeals all the better. The mini whopper plopper has a very nice plop as well. The dual prop Zara spook when modified is excellent. Upsize one one the screw eyes and jb weld in. Use the larger blades that style and leave the washers off the rear. Upsize the hooks to 1/0 and shrinkwrap the rear hook. Very loud little bait.
musky513
Posted 1/21/2016 5:53 PM (#800703 - in reply to #800609)
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Not sure about the others, but the Dr. Evil is pretty awesome. You can work it super slow and it still makes a good plopping noise and puts out a good sized wake for a small bait. It's not so great in very windy conditions in my experience.
Cedar
Posted 1/21/2016 6:39 PM (#800711 - in reply to #800609)
Subject: RE: Small Topwaters




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Location: Western U.P.
Favorite small prop bait is the Mini Chopper. Caught more fish last year on an all black one than all of my other top waters combined. Whopper Plopper 130 is not bad. Have had action with them occasionally. Top Raider is a little larger than the Mini Chopper, but still does good early on, and throughout the year. Probably my second favorite prop bait.
Pat Hoolihan
Posted 1/21/2016 7:58 PM (#800717 - in reply to #800609)
Subject: Re: Small Topwaters




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Easy for me, Cisco Kid Topper Stopper. Back in the early 2000's when Vermillion was full of young and dumb fish, that was the go to in any weather. Not the best for hook up percentage but it was fun throwing that silly little bait in big waves and having fish charge right out of and into another wave.
5th lake Brad
Posted 1/22/2016 9:56 AM (#800772 - in reply to #800609)
Subject: RE: Small Topwaters





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Location: Gilberts IL/Rhinelander WI
Lee Lures regular size water chopper, top raider, night walker and Dr evil's would be my choices for smaller prop baits.
Jeremy
Posted 1/22/2016 10:03 AM (#800774 - in reply to #800609)
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Location: Minnesota.
AHL mini's all the way. Hey, they can't all be huge...:-))




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gtp888
Posted 1/22/2016 10:11 AM (#800777 - in reply to #800609)
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI
Lee Lures Mini Chopper - black.  Well...it WAS black! 
0723
Posted 1/22/2016 2:18 PM (#800813 - in reply to #800777)
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Whopper plopper 5 inch ,and 3 inch are awesome baits.If you can find and old mini jackpot ,that one works well too.
Reef Hawg
Posted 1/22/2016 5:41 PM (#800844 - in reply to #800609)
Subject: RE: Small Topwaters




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Location: north central wisconsin
Impossible to name one small topwater, but since you named a few small prop style lures, I'll concur that the Dr. evil is a nice bait. While I'm sure it'd be a decent numbers lure in many places, it has shined on nice fish in episodic situations during certain phases of the summer peak. More than anything though, you need a variety of lures in your preferred sizes based on the waters(some topwater 'types' are just plain proven on certain waters), time periods, and conditions at hand. Having more than one 'type' along with you is important based on fish attitude/daily conditions with effective speed of given lure being key in those situations.
T.Carlson
Posted 1/22/2016 5:49 PM (#800846 - in reply to #800609)
Subject: Re: Small Topwaters




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You can't go wrong with a Dr. Evil for a small topwater.
flyingfish8604
Posted 1/22/2016 7:48 PM (#800871 - in reply to #800609)
Subject: Re: Small Topwaters




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For the people that prefer the Suick Nightwalker, have you had any issues with fish just eating the while bait? I've seen several videos as well as seen people have just the leader outside the fishes' mouth. Just wondering if these fish were just flukes or if it is common for them to eat the whole nightwalker.
Zinox
Posted 1/23/2016 3:43 AM (#800891 - in reply to #800609)
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Why would it be a problem that they inhale the hole bait ?
flyingfish8604
Posted 1/23/2016 3:47 AM (#800892 - in reply to #800891)
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The issue I've seen is the deeper hooked fish can get hurt. Hooks get quite close to the gullet and gills. Maybe it is just my own concern and not really an issue
Reef Hawg
Posted 1/23/2016 9:02 AM (#800901 - in reply to #800871)
Subject: Re: Small Topwaters




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Location: north central wisconsin
flyingfish8604 - 1/22/2016 7:48 PM

. Just wondering if these fish were just flukes or if it is common for them to eat the whole nightwalker.


I don't throw the Night Walker, though I doubt they eat other similarily sized prop lures much differently. Reaction strikes are typically side shots/front hook. The lions share of following fish(small to large) rush the lure at the last second, also eating it from the side/front hook. While I've gingerly removed topwaters back out through the gill plate that had been 'eaten'. With the exception of newly stocked waters/first couple years of topwater bite where we've seen the most consistent deeply hooked fish, the majority of fish that overtake directly from the back, seem to be nippers or grabbers that get the back hook for us. Topwaters are smaller than most lures by nature and could be more easily taken all the way in, but I would say it happens no more so than with a small crankbait or bucktail.
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