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Bondy
Posted 12/16/2015 4:53 AM (#796391 - in reply to #753922)
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Thanks for throwing that Royal! Been an awesome seller. As for the mono I would lean towards like 100 or more flouro but I'm not sure what would happen really. I'm afraid that the shock of setting the hook would break it like it did rods for me. Might be wrong but if you have less that 30 ft out and use a snap type hook set it could possibly break. You truly might be on to something though!
Zib
Posted 12/16/2015 7:39 AM (#796400 - in reply to #796390)
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Location: Detroit River
Zinox - 12/16/2015 4:48 AMAnyone of you ever tried using 80lb or so mono, if the softer rods are preferred maybe the stretch in the mono could help as well ?.
I prefer the sensitivity of the braid. When I'm jigging in the DR I can feel the difference when I get even just one zebra mussel on my hook with the braid. I would think that I'd risk snapping the line if I used mono for jigging. When the fish hit's on the down stroke of the jig the bite can be felt in your forearm, especially when it's a big fish. When that happens your arm will hurt from the fish striking. It's a great feeling to have. Also the thinner diameter of the braid helps keep you more vertical when jigging in the river because there's less drag on the line in the current. Though when you're using a 7 oz. jig staying vertical is a lot easier than using a 5/8 oz. walleye jig.
Zinox
Posted 12/16/2015 11:19 AM (#796421 - in reply to #753922)
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Of course the thinner diameter of the braid is a massive plus for staying vertical in flowing water.
Don't think there's a change that one is going to snap 90lb+ mono on the hook set, simply because of the flexibility in the material, afaik that is also the reason lots of shark/saltwater big fish anglers still use think mono, to have a buffer in the system when using the short super stiff rods. But there is only one way to find out, might buy a spool of 300 feet sufix mono leader in 100lb and spool my Avet with it, and give it a go.
4amuskie
Posted 12/16/2015 3:21 PM (#796438 - in reply to #796421)
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What an absolute great discussion. A bit off topic but a guy was talking about losing fish on short line trolling and was told to go to longer forgiving rod to keep fish pinned. Same principle as above I assume.
Thanks for making me think a bit here
wall i
Posted 12/16/2015 10:35 PM (#796461 - in reply to #796438)
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No need to go 100 lbs in mono or fluoro.......30 - 40 is plenty as long as a heavier leader is used. The stretch in mono/fluoro will absorb much of the energy that would break a no stretch, similar test braid. Braid OK, there you need heavier test.

Its tough to find good med action rods in heavier weights with the exception of trolling rods but, thats what I would use if braid is preferred. Fast action rods would benefit from 40lbs mono in a jigging situation.

Better than half my rod inventory is made up of med action rods now cause I like braid but it took me a while to find them.


Take a lesson from bass fisherman......they cast their larger cranks with 40- 60 lbs braid but their mono/fluoro is usually in the 20 lbs range. Get a wind knot on lesser braid and kiss your lure good bye...braid cannot absorb shock like mono can.
Zinox
Posted 12/17/2015 3:08 AM (#796470 - in reply to #753922)
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The reason i wanted to go with the heavy mono, was to have less stretch then the 60lb eg. i use some 60lb for trolling when the temperatures get around zero, and i'm sure i would hold up fine for jigging, but its really stretchy which was why i was thinking some really heavy would be fine in between the braid and thin mono
Zinox
Posted 12/17/2015 3:24 AM (#796472 - in reply to #753922)
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A 30-35 feet 80lb wind on leader might be plenty give for the fish to gets hooked and not ripping the bait out of the mouth, my target jigging depth if usually between 40-65 feet.
Bondy
Posted 12/17/2015 4:39 AM (#796473 - in reply to #753922)
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My clients can tell you that I'm constantly tinkering with something new when it comes to jigging deep so I'm definitely going to try jigging flouro next year...among many other ideas I've dreamed up but still need to try. I'll give a report on opening day.
wall i
Posted 12/17/2015 7:40 PM (#796570 - in reply to #796473)
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Bondy - 12/17/2015 4:39 AM

My clients can tell you that I'm constantly tinkering with something new when it comes to jigging deep so I'm definitely going to try jigging fluoro next year...among many other ideas I've dreamed up but still need to try. I'll give a report on opening day.



Heavy test fluoro will have better memory than your mother in law and frustrate you even more. 30 lbs quality mono is good enough coupled with a 100 lbs leader given a stiff action rod; slower action rods are better suited to braid. Hits near the boat...all bets off... may good luck, good drag washers and good gods be with you.

Best combo likely 65 lbs braid mainline; 20' mono 30-lbs. and 2 ft 130 fluoro...will compensate for any rod action once you get use to it.

You can likely try to be "perfect" with any technique but remember you will never be perfect in all situations. Gotta love fishing.

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