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| I picked the DVD at a Rummage Sale. It's a bit dated - but then again, so am I.
Any disciples of the system out there? Essentially a bass jig and shad body. My theory is that it sure would give the fish something new to look at.
Anyone have success with this "system"? Or not.
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Location: NE Ohio | i have tried it a few times here in OHIO with no results. i've used the large and medium shad bodies, not even a follow for me. |
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Location: North St. Paul, MN | Used it quite a bit on Lac Seul 10 years ago. Lots of pike, zero muskies. It definitely is different as a lot of guys are not using it. I ended up with a lot of short strikes and ripped up bodies...tough finding jig shanks long enough if you ask me. I suppose it would be good to add some sort of stinger hook with wire attached to the shank or main hook. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | It's a swim bait/creature. A big twister tail will do the same thing, and I have found them more effective than the shad bodies. Bait Rigs Esox Cobra jigs work well for that system. Match it with the original Fliptail Creature.
http://www.fliptail-lures.com/
I wish he made them in yellow. Glad to see them back in production. |
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| I've cough some fish using his set-up, J-mac's and 6 inch shaker bodies also used lil hustler silicone skirt jigs, I like them better. Better hook, and skirt holds up better.
It took a little experimenting, but finally started catching fish using them, day and night.
I really like the single hook.
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| keep in mind that this video was made specifically to promote a product for sale by burning big walleye jigs to try and catch muskies. the story i was told is that during filming of that video a standard bucktail was outperforming the plastic "system" something like 4-1.
stick with bucktails for straight fast retrieves, and leave the jigs for, well, jigging.
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Location: midwest | Musky mayhem makes a jig called a stickem jig and that has a very good hook. |
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| Howdy,
I have used that system extensively and have had very good results with it, even having it out fish a bucktail in some instances. Obviously there are time other lures work much better. I consider it an essential presentation option under the right circumstances and carry them in my boat at all times.
One of the things I like about it is that it also attracts a good number of big bass and walleye as well. For me, the best option was the Lil' Hustler jig and Lunker City 6 inch Shaker.
Take care,
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| J-Mac and a Salty Shaker tail has worked well for us. But I agree some jigs have better hooks. |
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Location: Waukee, IA | Not very familiar with the system. How much different are they from say a Jig a Beast jig/swimbait? |
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | every year I use some variation of this. the jig and reaper body is still my favorite. Now I put the giant reaper tail on all sorts of jigs and rigs. When they get on a weedline it is a great presentation. You want to talk about something the fish haven't seen for awhile....reaper tails. |
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| The hottest follow I had came on a large jig and shad body, Last week other than the one that wit a different lure |
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Location: north central wisconsin | Doug was 'perfecting' the system with the coming of age of many of the MN lakes in his neck of the woods and he had some success with some big fish on them. I talked to him extensively about the tactic, and after employing the straight retrieve methods he used, I settled into what I do for Walleyes, which is my own speed/drop retrieve. I do well on Muskies on this retrieve, the problem lies in that it is happening before season while Walleye fishing with 3-4" tails on my homemade swim jigs. As Mike said, once northern season opens and they want a straight/quicker retrieve, there are other things that pay bigger dividends for me than straight cranking jigs/paddle tails. Jigging works all season, but that isn't what we're talking about here. As a side note, I'm glad to have talked to Doug years ago about the method, as I bought every color and size shaker tail ever made, and they have come in so handy for trailers on other lures and for other species both fresh and saltwater over the years. |
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Location: SE, WI. | sworrall - 6/11/2015 8:46 PM It's a swim bait/creature. A big twister tail will do the same thing, and I have found them more effective than the shad bodies. Bait Rigs Esox Cobra jigs work well for that system. Match it with the original Fliptail Creature. http://www.fliptail-lures.com/ I wish he made them in yellow. Glad to see them back in production. Ah Yes, No fish Yellow!!!  How many you need? JD
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| On weedier waters the Jigabeast and salt shaker combo has been deadly for us. We have caught many musky up to 48" on it. They move muskies and have their place for sure. |
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| As an alternative try putting the jig and salt shaker shad on a spinner bait rig. |
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| southern comfort - 6/13/2015 8:04 AM
As an alternative try putting the jig and salt shaker shad on a spinner bait rig.
Sounds like it is worth a try, dressing a spinner bait with a shaker body |
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Location: Hudson,WI | I'm with Steve for sure!! I did EXTENSIVE research this off season on the old school jig/creature fishing and I plan to implement it into my arsenal. However like Steve said the Esox Cobra jig is the perfect jig for the application. Don't overthink it!! Also talk to Jim, JDSPLASHER here on M1st, cause he makes a very sweet jig/creature combo!! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Yep! |
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| For catch and release, fishing alone most of the time and the ability to keep Muskie hooked once on, my first choice is a large 7/0 single hook lure / bait. I have also noticed no difference barbless.
This primarily leaves one with jigs and spinnerbaits.
I have tied avidly for decades, you can't tie anything (bunny strips, finn coon zonkers, arctic fox , hackle,etc) that swims like a paddle/boot tail.
Swiming a jig as Mr.Stange popularized is extremely enjoyable,comfortable way to cast All Day Long and is as interactive (yo yo, pause, burn, crank) as one wants it to be.
As with spinnerbaits (single hook no trailer) , as with Bass fishing swim jigs, spinnerbaits you will miss some compared to multi treble hook cranks but, unlike cranks once pinned you will rarely drop one. To me thats part of the "sport" of fishing a single hook.
I usually fish them the same as I do a spinner bait most often which after countdown or not I burst 5-8 cranks and pause - repeat. The weedless swim jig can go through the heaviest cover, weeds, like few can. As with a spinnerbait I set the hook lifting straight up, except on an 8 then I set opposite direction and up, of the fish at your feet.
Besides other jigs/plastics mentioned Warbaits makes some nice heads. Keitech swing impact fat, 5.8" is nice, with a skirt, pin it (toothpick) or glue it. I am surprized Big Hammers (paddle tails) have not been mentioned.
I appreciate what can be done with a jig or spinnerbait on an 8 compared to a Bucktail or Crank.
As an avid tier I had a closed mind about plastics for years. But, they just kept getting better and better.
I "swim the jig " same areas I would/do a spinnerbait. If the water is off color, overcast out, dawn/dusk I like a spinnerbait. If its clear'er, sunny the fish have seen pressure, various blades or I am going to work the heaviest slop I like a swim jig. You don't need a skirt but, I tend to like them for bulking up and added color.
They also fish well in the same areas as a crank bait, open water,rocks,etc.
I really appreciate Doug Stange popularizing , tweaking this system. It's soon enjoyable to cast for Muskie with a downsized (1/2 oz - 2 oz) Muskie rod, heavy bass rod........refreshing.
I don't think they replace anything plugs,blades nor other jigs but, it's another tool and a very enjoyable , sporting "tool" to fish long days.
I have seen where Doug Stange states "its a top ten". I think most would agree jigs be it swim or vertical, Always have been a "top ten" - Swim jig heads with boot tails sure are not lacking anything compared to other jigs of the past or present  |
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