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Message Subject: Weagle VS Topraider, The Final Showdown
Long TIme Lurker
Posted 6/9/2015 6:25 PM (#771915)
Subject: Weagle VS Topraider, The Final Showdown





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How do you choose? What conditions make you go, I should walk to dog today? I should tail prop today? I've caught fish on both lure types, I notice on any day they seam to have a preference BUT I have never put 2 and 2 together on conditions that should excel one bait or the other. I know in the wind walk the dog can be annoying. I know I get more strikes on walk the dog, BUT I miss a lot less fish on tail props. Just interested in some analysis. When and why?

And as a side question, Suick nitestalker, Love the bait, caught my first 2 fish ever on one. Anyone got a trick on how I can stop nightstalkers from spinning my line and ruining it?

Thanks fellas
fishingprovy
Posted 6/9/2015 9:12 PM (#771957 - in reply to #771915)
Subject: RE: Weagle VS Topraider, The Final Showdown




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add a small 1/4 oz bell sinker to the front hooks split ring
muskyroller
Posted 6/10/2015 7:11 AM (#771975 - in reply to #771915)
Subject: Re: Weagle VS Topraider, The Final Showdown




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Location: North St. Paul, MN
Contact Suick lures. I sent my nightwalker back in and he sent me a new one. Their first year had the line twist issue. Second year of production they solved it.
dami0101
Posted 6/10/2015 10:21 AM (#772005 - in reply to #771915)
Subject: Re: Weagle VS Topraider, The Final Showdown





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Location: Minneapolis, MN
wouldn't a swivel between your line and the lure work?
kevinj
Posted 6/10/2015 10:52 AM (#772015 - in reply to #772005)
Subject: Re: Weagle VS Topraider, The Final Showdown




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The Prop baits cover water better than walk the dog
If I know where the fish are i walk the dog
when i dont i throw the prop
KJ
esoxaddict
Posted 6/10/2015 11:44 AM (#772033 - in reply to #772015)
Subject: Re: Weagle VS Topraider, The Final Showdown





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I usually go with a tail prop first and save the slowest stuff for last.
MuskieFever
Posted 6/10/2015 12:20 PM (#772039 - in reply to #771915)
Subject: Re: Weagle VS Topraider, The Final Showdown




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Location: Maplewood, MN
I like prop style in windier conditions. I love walk the dog baits. I work mine a little more aggressive than others do. Yes they are heart breaking at times but they do trigger fish. I like WTD over prop style in the metro area. Not as many people throw them and they can be worked in different ways.
curleytail
Posted 6/10/2015 1:12 PM (#772047 - in reply to #771915)
Subject: RE: Weagle VS Topraider, The Final Showdown




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Location: Hayward, WI
Which one triggers fish better that particular day? That's the one that works better that day.
Generic answer, but that's the truth, really.

Broken down, I too usually would use WTD baits less in wind, though they can still work. For the most part, I go to a slow WTD bait after faster presentations haven't worked. Some days, putting the Weagle on would show or catch fish when nothing else worked.

I've never used WTD baits after dark. Might still work, but I usually go to a slow moving tail bait like a Pacemaker after it gets dark out.

Tucker
MuskieJim
Posted 6/10/2015 2:03 PM (#772052 - in reply to #771975)
Subject: Re: Weagle VS Topraider, The Final Showdown





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muskyroller - 6/10/2015 8:11 AM

Contact Suick lures. I sent my nightwalker back in and he sent me a new one. Their first year had the line twist issue. Second year of production they solved it.


Is this true? I ended up decommissioning a nightwalker, took the hardware off and threw the bait away because it was a "line twist extraordinaire". I loved the action but I couldn't stop the twist no matter what. Not with a swivel, nothing.
muskyroller
Posted 6/10/2015 2:47 PM (#772063 - in reply to #771915)
Subject: Re: Weagle VS Topraider, The Final Showdown




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Location: North St. Paul, MN
Yep, contact Steve Suick. Great guy...talked with him at the mn musky expo a few years ago and he hooked me up.
tkuntz
Posted 6/11/2015 5:11 PM (#772222 - in reply to #771915)
Subject: Re: Weagle VS Topraider, The Final Showdown




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Location: Waukee, IA
My thoughts have been covered pretty much. Top raider to cover water and weagle for fishing a specific spot
sworrall
Posted 6/11/2015 5:45 PM (#772229 - in reply to #772222)
Subject: Re: Weagle VS Topraider, The Final Showdown





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
We use both lures at the same time if we have 2 in the boat. More times than you might think possible one would produce when the other flat didn't, and there were no 'conditions' dictating which would be hot on any given day. Some days both seemed to produce pretty much equally, but not very often.
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