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Zib
Posted 6/8/2015 11:42 AM (#771661)
Subject: Most Durable Line Guides for Musky Rods????





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Location: Detroit River

I'm planning on building my own rods in the near future & was wondering what the most durable line guides are for musky rods? I'm tired of having to replace line guides on my musky rods because the ceramic ring either cracking or popping out. I have bass rods that are almost 20 years old & never had guide issues with them but my musky rods are a different story.

 

Thanks

 

Slime King
Posted 6/8/2015 11:58 AM (#771664 - in reply to #771661)
Subject: RE: Most Durable Line Guides for Musky Rods????





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Location: midwest
Take a look at pac bay minima guides.
Flambeauski
Posted 6/8/2015 12:46 PM (#771671 - in reply to #771661)
Subject: Re: Most Durable Line Guides for Musky Rods????




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Location: Smith Creek
Minimas, carbaloys, recoils, anything with a stainless insert.

Why would you go with soft guides when you have the ability to replace them yourself?
The more durable you go the softer the guide is. It won't necessarily groove the guide but it will wear your line faster and make more drag when you're reeling.
Ceramic type inserts are brittle, but they're 20-50 times harder than metal guides. The worst thing about them is they can crack and you have to replace them. But if you wrap your own replacing them is a breeze, and well worth the inconvenience.
Zib
Posted 6/8/2015 1:54 PM (#771681 - in reply to #771671)
Subject: Re: Most Durable Line Guides for Musky Rods????





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Location: Detroit River

Flambeauski - 6/8/2015 1:46 PM Minimas, carbaloys, recoils, anything with a stainless insert. Why would you go with soft guides when you have the ability to replace them yourself? The more durable you go the softer the guide is. It won't necessarily groove the guide but it will wear your line faster and make more drag when you're reeling. Ceramic type inserts are brittle, but they're 20-50 times harder than metal guides. The worst thing about them is they can crack and you have to replace them. But if you wrap your own replacing them is a breeze, and well worth the inconvenience.

Thanks for the info. I'm not looking for soft guides, I just want guides that are going to hold up to the abuse. I have the worst luck with guide inserts cracking on my musky rods & it's starting to annoy me. Just the other day I was  putting new line on my reel & as I was running the line through the guide one of the inserts popped out on my St. Croix Mojo. It will cost me $20 plus shipping to send it back to St. Croix but I can replace the guide myself for a lot less but it will be hard to match the guide because it's some brand I've never heard of.

Cedar
Posted 6/8/2015 2:33 PM (#771687 - in reply to #771661)
Subject: RE: Most Durable Line Guides for Musky Rods????




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Location: Western U.P.
Two good durable options for Musky rods would be Recoil Guides or American Tackle Ring Lock Typhoon Guides with Duralite, or Nanoplasma coated rings. Recoils are somewhat expensive, but can take a lot of abuse. If you bend a recoil guide over, it will spring back into place. However, if you do that when it is below a certain temp outside (somewhere in the 30's I believe), the guide will not spring back on its own until it warms up. I have the Ring Locks with both Duralite and Nanoplasma rings on a few rods and like them. No problems with either after a couple of years of weekly use. I prefer the Nanoplasma rings because of the reduced friction with that coating. Less wear on the line, and smoother, farther casts. Good luck with the builds.
Flambeauski
Posted 6/8/2015 2:51 PM (#771688 - in reply to #771661)
Subject: Re: Most Durable Line Guides for Musky Rods????




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Location: Smith Creek
I've got boxes of grooved Recoils. They're pretty cool to show someone looking to buy a durable guide, and they're really light, but just don't hold up to heavy braid (or fly line).
achotrod
Posted 6/9/2015 11:35 AM (#771841 - in reply to #771661)
Subject: Re: Most Durable Line Guides for Musky Rods????





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Not sure what they are exactly but the guides on my SC LTs have been great. Same with the metal guides my Chaos and TI rods. Rods that the guides have givin me problems are MI bulldawg select series, SC Premiers and Mojos. Usually happens when the rod is brand new and I have others of the same makes that have been great.

Bass rods dont have nearly the same abuse from the heavy line and huge lures a musky rod takes so that is prob why there a far less issues.
tswoboda
Posted 6/9/2015 1:01 PM (#771855 - in reply to #771661)
Subject: Re: Most Durable Line Guides for Musky Rods????




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St Croix LTs use Fuji Alconite guides and a SiC tip top. I build my rods with Alconites and would recommend you use guides with ceramic inserts of some sort for the reasons Flambeauski mentioned. Fuji has a heavy duty micro guide that would be durable and still very light.
bowhunter29
Posted 6/10/2015 8:55 AM (#771993 - in reply to #771661)
Subject: Re: Most Durable Line Guides for Musky Rods????





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Location: South-Central VA
If a guy with your breakage history came to me for a custom build, I'd recommend one guide. Go with American Tackle's Virtus Lite Ringlock guides. They are more durable than even the Typhoons and as close to bullet proof as you can get.

jeremy
LugiAustria
Posted 6/10/2015 3:17 PM (#772068 - in reply to #771661)
Subject: Re: Most Durable Line Guides for Musky Rods????




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I use Fuji MNSG stainless steel Sic guides on my LT blanks. Light and durable, but still a reasonable price
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