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Message Subject: Hardhead weight adjustment
szczochu
Posted 1/10/2015 6:05 PM (#747643)
Subject: Hardhead weight adjustment




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Hey guys. Just got back from the Chicago Muskie Expo and got myself 2 Hardheads after reading lots of positive reviews. My question is about the location of the weight, the action it creates, and most of all success you guys have on the placement. I mostly fish one lake with fish relating to weed edges ranging from 10 to 20 feet. Could not find any posts specific to the matter. Thx.
Landry
Posted 1/10/2015 6:23 PM (#747644 - in reply to #747643)
Subject: Re: Hardhead weight adjustment




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I like putting the heaviest weight in the back location myself. Feel it gives the best dying action but it runs deeper if u put more weight up front.
They are good lures.
Trophyseeker50
Posted 1/10/2015 6:52 PM (#747651 - in reply to #747643)
Subject: Re: Hardhead weight adjustment





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Location: WI
For every person that has one you will find another method of using it. I personally like a large weight on the back and a medium weight on the front. I try to get it to run deeper.
szczochu
Posted 1/10/2015 7:01 PM (#747654 - in reply to #747644)
Subject: Re: Hardhead weight adjustment




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Landry so what youre saying is that with the middle weight being on bait is more suspending. Just to clerify weed edges visible boat being in 10 to 20 ft range.
szczochu
Posted 1/10/2015 7:05 PM (#747656 - in reply to #747654)
Subject: Re: Hardhead weight adjustment




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szczochu
Posted 1/10/2015 8:49 PM (#747673 - in reply to #747656)
Subject: Re: Hardhead weight adjustment




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Infamous would be very intersted in ur walleye golden pattern.
ToddM
Posted 1/10/2015 9:23 PM (#747675 - in reply to #747643)
Subject: Re: Hardhead weight adjustment





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Location: oswego, il
Yep weight placement combinations change the action of the bait. Tail up and down also changes how deep the lure runs and its action.

Edited by ToddM 1/10/2015 9:24 PM
szczochu
Posted 1/10/2015 10:26 PM (#747691 - in reply to #747675)
Subject: Re: Hardhead weight adjustment




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Yes I understand that tweaking with the lure is going to change the action but my question is how does it relate to catching fish. Weight front weight rear no weight tail up tail down
ToddM
Posted 1/10/2015 10:33 PM (#747693 - in reply to #747643)
Subject: Re: Hardhead weight adjustment





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Location: oswego, il
It relates to how you want to fish it for the type of structure, depth and mood of fish. There isn't one magic setup that trumps all. It is a versatile bait you can adjust for the situation. If you want the bait to get deep you want a big nose weight and tail down for example. More erratic direction, belly weight tail up. Getting the tail screwed on right and how straight up or down the tail is makes a huge difference in the baits action.
szczochu
Posted 1/10/2015 10:48 PM (#747696 - in reply to #747693)
Subject: Re: Hardhead weight adjustment




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Got it Thank You.
Team Rhino
Posted 1/10/2015 11:21 PM (#747701 - in reply to #747643)
Subject: Re: Hardhead weight adjustment




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Location: Appleton
I run tail down with no weight and have done well with the Hard Head. Great bait
Trophyseeker50
Posted 1/11/2015 3:30 PM (#747829 - in reply to #747643)
Subject: Re: Hardhead weight adjustment





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Location: WI
Funny .... I have been thinking about doing a glitter hardhead the last few days. You read my mind
Landry
Posted 1/11/2015 8:50 PM (#747939 - in reply to #747643)
Subject: Re: Hardhead weight adjustment




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Tail down and heavier at front will get deepest and hop a little more
No weight up front and tail up gives a bit of a fluttering a ton and side to side but each hardhead in my e film is a little different.
curleytail
Posted 1/12/2015 12:27 PM (#748054 - in reply to #747643)
Subject: Re: Hardhead weight adjustment




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Location: Hayward, WI
Really have to experiment with it to see what works best in other conditions. Tail up makes it run shallower with more wobble. Tail down is deeper and a little less shimmy, but able to get the whole bait to walk left and right a little more.

I usually weight front and back equally, or front heavier than back to get the nose to dive more and run deeper. Amount of weight depends on how deep you want to run the bait and at what speed.

Lots depends on how deep the fish are holding. Most are saying it depends on how deep the fish are holding, their mood, how far they will move to hit a bait, etc.

You'll catch fish on it. They are good baits.
CiscoKid
Posted 1/13/2015 11:19 AM (#748242 - in reply to #747643)
Subject: RE: Hardhead weight adjustment





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Location: Oconto Falls, WI
szczochu - 1/10/2015 6:05 PM

I mostly fish one lake with fish relating to weed edges ranging from 10 to 20 feet. Could not find any posts specific to the matter. Thx.


1/2 OZ to 1 OZ. weight in the front, tail down all year except fall. Then go tail up. Rarely put a weight in the rear. Warmer the water is the heavier the weight you want normally.

Do a search on "Hardhead" and you will find several threads about different methods to fish.

Awesome baits. I wouldn't be without them.

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