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bigred2198
Posted 12/25/2014 9:26 AM (#745336 - in reply to #738793)
Subject: Re: Aluminum Boats




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I have a 2005 165 navigator, it has a ton of space to cast and storage. The 175 model is very roomy. My friend just got a 1775 lund impact. it fished three of us on LOTW very nicely.
gsha
Posted 12/25/2014 9:57 AM (#745341 - in reply to #738793)
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We currently have a Lund Rebel 1650 XL tiller in camo and would definitely go with Lund again. Rodlockers and front/rear deck are the same height for laying long rods and gear on. We had a Crestliner prior and have spent a lot of time in an Alumnacraft.
tolle141
Posted 12/25/2014 4:02 PM (#745374 - in reply to #738793)
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In theory, welds are better. With that said, most of the riveted boats out there are extremely good. I run a fish hawk 1850 DC because I want the massive casting deck. My buddy prefers the Alumacrafts because he's more trolling oriented.

The Predator is one of the best aluminum casting rigs I've ever fished. The problem? The price. They will be a hot item in a few years as depreciation does its work.

CMV - that's a sick boat.
WINDKNOT
Posted 12/26/2014 1:41 AM (#745395 - in reply to #738793)
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^^^ Then in theory Airplane's should be welded !! If it was they would be !!
brianT
Posted 12/26/2014 3:07 AM (#745396 - in reply to #738793)
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Location: Planet Meltdown
^^^ airplanes are also designed to withstand G forces, boats - not so much lol
WINDKNOT
Posted 12/26/2014 9:52 AM (#745401 - in reply to #738793)
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^^ Also 1000s of hours designed not to fail. Boats not so much !!
brianT
Posted 12/26/2014 9:07 PM (#745446 - in reply to #738793)
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I guess if I didn't have first hand experience working on aircraft fuselages and I was dumb enough to compare a boat to an airplane, I'd stay far away from a welded boat. Happy fishhawk owner here who almost bought a Lund.
WINDKNOT
Posted 12/27/2014 3:14 AM (#745453 - in reply to #738793)
Subject: Re: Aluminum Boats




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I don't think it is dumb to consider different techniques of Alum. construction. And welding does change the molecular structure of the base metal near the weld do to heat. And that's were they the have problem's. Revit's do not change the base metal. You end up with what you started with no surprise's. And I do have first hand experience working on aircraft. You WILL have a lot of respect for rivet's in my field. Bag it Buy Glass !! Wait to Heavy !! I'll Stop
brianT
Posted 12/27/2014 3:59 AM (#745454 - in reply to #738793)
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Oh I don't think it's dumb to consider diffrent aluminum construction either and I hope I didn't come off that way. Everybody has diffrent needs and accomplishments in a boat I just think it's silly when people say "you should buy a riveted boat because that's what airplanes use." Pretty sure my next boat is going to be glass as I see myself fishing big water more down the road.
tbaatz
Posted 12/27/2014 11:29 AM (#745473 - in reply to #738793)
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Location: Scandia MN
Take a look at Princecraft. Made in Canada where they know a thing or two about big water.
Further North
Posted 12/27/2014 1:53 PM (#745479 - in reply to #745374)
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tolle141 - 12/25/2014 4:02 PM

CMV - that's a sick boat.


Yeah, it is - works great for me in NW WI. and in Canada.

Even better, I bought it used last spring with about 3 1/2 hours on the motor, virtually spotless and unused since it was new (it's a 2005). The carpet inside the storage compartments was spotless, even the bilge was clean enough to eat out of (there's a couple of pictures in the link below).

While I was updating it to modern electronics (Humminbird Side Imaging, 360° and a 101 Terrova with iLink) I found all the chips, shavings, carpet trimming etc. that fall into the keel of a hull when they build it - and even they were all clean.

Here's what it looked like when I bout it: http://s189.photobucket.com/user/groznak/library/2005%20Crestliner%...

Why Crestliner quit building them is a mystery to me.

Edited by Further North 12/27/2014 1:54 PM
WINDKNOT
Posted 12/27/2014 2:15 PM (#745482 - in reply to #738793)
Subject: Re: Aluminum Boats




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You can teach a robot to weld. Rivet ? Those jet boats out west Columbia/Snake river those boats Hand made and are hand welded . Like Shelby's on Axemen tuff boat. Production Boats/ Robot Welding ? Not tuff as you think. Ever fly into Canada. All or most of the Guide/Rental boats are what. Rivet's Why because they like replacing boats ? You can rivet out in the bush. Heli-Arch weld alum. Not so much.




Edited by WINDKNOT 12/27/2014 2:38 PM
muskyhunter47
Posted 12/27/2014 4:11 PM (#745485 - in reply to #745482)
Subject: Re: Aluminum Boats




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Location: Minnesota
Ya I loved my CMV lots of storage . The only thing I did not like was the rod storage. I started fishing longer rods and had no where to put them. The fishing was great big decks that was great. Seats were a little low and I only had one bubble so passenger got the full wind in the fall that was no fun for them. I did have some of the welds Crack on the transom dropped it off in little falls Mn had it back in 2 weeks never had any more problems with it.
hoytrules
Posted 12/28/2014 9:01 AM (#745538 - in reply to #738793)
Subject: Re: Aluminum Boats




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2005 Alumacraft navigator 165, fishes 2 people great but have had 3 fish out of . Next one will be the Alumacraft competitor 175 just for more room. Most of the time on the water is just me and the wife so rooms not that big a deal, but when we take it up north more room for gear would be nice. And I upgraded to a terrova 101 with Ipilot got a hell of a deal on it so figured why not, just had to find a place to put 4th battery.
Further North
Posted 12/28/2014 11:04 PM (#745667 - in reply to #745485)
Subject: Re: Aluminum Boats




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muskyhunter47 - 12/27/2014 4:11 PM

Ya I loved my CMV lots of storage . The only thing I did not like was the rod storage. I started fishing longer rods and had no where to put them. The fishing was great big decks that was great. Seats were a little low and I only had one bubble so passenger got the full wind in the fall that was no fun for them. I did have some of the welds Crack on the transom dropped it off in little falls Mn had it back in 2 weeks never had any more problems with it.


If I'm by myself (and I often am) I store the long rods on that slanted area to the left of the passenger seat, tilting back. This works great, even with 9 ft. fly rods, which I use a fair amount.

I can fit 7 1/2 footers in the rod locker, If I plan what I'm doing a little.

The single bubble would have been a problem - you probably saw in my pics that the previous owner has removed the port side console...After looking at the pictures and talking to him I was probably still going to buy the boat, and I mentioned to him that I'd have to try to get another console from Crestliner...he said "Oh, I've got the other one in the garage, I've never used it."

I made him an offer 5 seconds later....
muskyhunter47
Posted 12/29/2014 9:18 AM (#745692 - in reply to #745667)
Subject: Re: Aluminum Boats




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Location: Minnesota
That's where i stored mine Put a hipper setter in the mix and have him break one of your custom rods . That's when I decided to find a better boat I liked my CMV very much it was the first boat I bought. All ways used my dad's up till then. But I really like my skeeter mx 1825 don't plan on another boat for 15 years right before my retirement then I'll look at getting a new one
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