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sworrall
Posted 3/31/2019 10:51 PM (#934260 - in reply to #934234)
Subject: Re: Gas





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4amuskie - 3/31/2019 6:48 PM

Guess I'm calling Mercury for wasting money on these fuel filters. Thieves.
Always entertaining Steve. Always :)


Who said they are a 'waste'? Also, just in case our discussion confuses anyone, a 'fuel filter' is not the same as a water/fuel separating fuel filter. See attached. Also, what's 'interesting' in this is any attempt to make it a personal argument. I'm simply providing facts when prompted by a claim or statement that calls for same.

You made a statement that called for editorial debate, which was provided. If you disagree with what was said, provide information that proves your point, maybe. That's what debate is all about, right? Nothing personal here, I can disagree with your statement without having a single issue with you personally. Better stated, I'm disagreeing with a statement OutdoorsFIRST published, not with you personally. It's my job, actually.

How did I learn about all this? Interviews, phone calls, and reading. A lot of all. Why? because of a political position an organization that I feel should not be politicking took on the 15% ethanol issue and OutdoorsFIRST was expected to publish that position as fact. When I was in the marine industry the companies I worked for paid them a lot of money to get organizational certification. I expected truth in practice from them and was frankly peeved after looking into the matter, so I finished educating myself on the subject and published both sides of the debate.

From Mercury Marine's website (full disclosure, OFM does work with Mercury Marine from time to time):

'Fuel Care Tips

Even more than the gas in your car, the gas in your boat needs special care to keep your engine running at peak performance. Gasoline begins to go bad within about two weeks. When left untreated, some of the fuel components begin to oxidize and form a gum-like substance. The substance settles in fuel lines and tanks, carburetors and injectors. When you try to burn this fuel, deposits can form in the combustion chamber. Over time, these deposits build up and reduce your engine’s performance.'

Ethanol doesn't break down like many of the other additives in today's gasoline. A quart of moonshine gets better with age...not worse.

'Barrel aging is what helps give whiskey its color, but before whiskey touches a barrel it's a clear spirit.” The major difference between white whiskey and moonshine is the fact that the term moonshine is a reference to a product for which taxes have not been paid.' Aged whiskey can sit in a barrel for a few years.

That said, do not run the e15 in your outboard. I believe (and have been told) testing will be ongoing to determine scope of use, much like it was with e10, and until that's been done it will be illegal to use in a small engine. We'll see where that goes, tons of politicking there too.

One can wager successfully that 15% and even higher concentrations of renewable fuels will become the standard in the future whether big oil likes it or not today, and everyone in the industry knows that. Auto racing engine mod specialists love the stuff. Supercharged engines produce more power and make for a faster car tuned for burning the e85 blend.

Especially telling is that quote from the Merc website. TWO WEEKS. Stabilize your fuel in your boat, every tank, unless you burn it every couple weeks and regardless what you decide to burn. If you don't and your engine breaks down as a result, my effort here is to point out that ethanol is not and has never been the problem and one is not 'OK' to just put in the ethanol free fuel and call it good.



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