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Location: Hugo, MN | OMG!! Can you believe this propaganda in the Alexandria paper? The MN DNR/Glenwood Area Fisheries actually did a study and found that average Walleye Size grew as Muskie populations grew??? Could it be true??? Wow, stay tuned for a response from our friends at No More Muskies . . .
http://www.echopress.com/event/article/id/72163/
(tongue firmly planted in cheek, please don't pm me with hate mail ) |
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| Darn walleyes must be eating all those muskie fingerlings |
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| Can we start a group to stop the walleye stockings? No More Walleyes has a nice ring to it....  |
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| yes,,,but you guys dont understand!!!!!
even if they dont eat them they still ruin the walleye fishing by pushing them off the bars and scattering them making them hard to catch/kill/fillet. |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | Thanks for finding that one. I've archived it for future use. |
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| I love it when the facts support what so many of us already felt so strondly about. It feels good. |
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| hopefully some of the folks in that area will read this and get a better understanding?????? |
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Location: MN | Don't believe it! We all know there are no healthy walleye fisheries that also contain a healthy population of muskies. 
Thanks for the article, good stuff.
Edited by Mak51 2/11/2010 12:10 PM
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| "We used to be able to go out on Friday and catch 50 walleyes for our Friday night fish fry. Now we're lucky if we catch 10! Those darn muskies are eating all our walleyes!!!"
uhhh... WHO ate all the walleyes???! |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | Muskie is a big family name up in that neck of the woods |
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Location: Alexandria, Minnesota | Finally.....Hopefully now the No More Muskies Guys will shut their traps. What cracks me up, is that in the late fall the walleye guys are bouncing jigs in 50-70 feet of water and they blame the muskies for killing walleyes. From what I have heard from the DNR is that every fish they catch is a goner when they are bringing them up from those depths. Now we have to get a spearing ban enforced on the lake. I have heard of 4 muskies being speared out there this year. One guy was a member of the dark house club in town. Thankfully, he was busted by the Dnr.
Good job MN DNR
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Location: deephaven mn | It appears the introduction of muskies coinsided with a down turn in walleye population, now the lake is in good shape,
good work by the DNR in assessing the lake previous to stocking muskies. it worked out well.
Edited by kap 2/11/2010 2:38 PM
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| During our resort conference we toured the Glenwood hatchery. The topic of Muskies came up and I casually asked him what he thought muskies did to the populations of other fish in the system. To the amazement of everyone in my group he said..... "gasp"....... in most cases the presence of muskies benefits the rest of the fishery, including walleyes. Not surprisingly there were a number in the group that told hem they didn't believe him. Those DNR guys have no idea what they are talking about........ |
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| im amazed at inept mindless drivel from un-educated fishermen. living on l. st clair with a population of over 138.000 muskies we have a excellent walleye and perch population. so much for muskies eating everything but the neighbors kids.. walleyes in natural systems spawn and mother nature dictates good or bad spawn cycles. . thanks for listening. i feel better now. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Well said woodie! I want to post this article at every boat ramp on the lake. |
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| I believe "no More Muskies" will be less of a headache in the future. One of the head members has bought a house in florida recently and spends 6-8 months a year there now. Great article by the way.. More info for the upcoming input meetings for the proposed lakes..
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Location: Wisconsin | Great mesage, I hope some of the part time fisherman that dont respect muskies read this and get a GOOD piece of info for a change instead of the misinformed BS that I hear far to much... |
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| there was a study on the invasive species MUSKY.. in new brunswick/maine theres a population. the studies showed muskies did NOT target salmonoids. they fed on soft forage fish. fort kent maine still has a huge kill muskie tourney every year. this is an intentional kill tourney. with global warming , declining salmon stocks, you would think tourism would want to promote the fishery. ... maybe all of these folks are afraid of fish with teeth. |
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| But yet guys,,,,walleye is the top seller in Bulldawgs,,,dont exactly make us look good |
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Location: New Hope MN | happy hooker - 2/12/2010 9:57 AM
But yet guys,,,,walleye is the top seller in Bulldawgs,,,dont exactly make us look good
What are you talking about? We don't buy walleye dawgs to catch fish. We buy them to train ski's NOT to eat walleye. Didn't you know |
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| I have personally never caught a musky on a walleye dawg. For some reason they love to eat the black/orange dawgs and the pink/yellow dawgs.... |
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Location: Alexandria, Minnesota | Happy Hooker.... I personally believe the Walleye Dawg mimics a Sucker Minnow more then it does a Walleye. The lakes that I fish up here tend to have real clear water. When you look at suckers in these bodies of water they look Bronze and Copper in color. They also have the white bottoms like the Walleye Dawg does. |
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| Great for lake miltona anglers! Next time someone from that lake can't catch a walleye and blames it on muskie densities now you have proof for THAT body of water. I belive it to foolish to paint it with such a broad stroke to include all lakes and streams. Its ONE study on ONE lake. And IMO as about as dumb as a walleye angler saying... ''Those muskies are eating all our walleyes''
I wonder if the pan fish population is down there? Maybe those perch guys are screaming.... ''Those walleyes are eating all my perch'' LOL.
I will have to plan a trip to lake Miltona because I love to fish for both, and something good is going on there I think.
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Location: N.FIB | the walleyes I catch don`t look like a walleye dawg,walleyes tend to have a little green in them,the walleye dawg looks more like a carp or smallie to me. |
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| We vacationed on Miltona last year and I can tell you that it was a great fishery. We saw 10+ muskies every day (although we only got a couple to eat due to a 8-10 degree water temp. drop in July). We had no problems catching walleyes even under those conditions and blue skys during the day.
If you go to Miltona I recommend spending a day fishing with Brad Hoppe. It is well worth the money and a lot of fun!
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | guest - 2/12/2010 11:08 AM
now you have proof for THAT body of water.
I belive it to foolish to paint it with such a broad stroke to include all lakes and streams. Its ONE study on ONE lake. And IMO as about as dumb as a walleye angler saying... ''Those muskies are eating all our walleyes''
I would agree with your point here if not for one key thing. In Minnesota when people speak up against muskies and try to say that they'll ruin the lake, they often use other lakes as examples to back up their arguement. It seems that about 75% point to Lake Miltona when doing this (because that's where the group "no more muskies" started up). So this is much more than just a win for Lake Miltona.
Aaron
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| AWH - 2/12/2010 1:40 PM
guest - 2/12/2010 11:08 AM
now you have proof for THAT body of water.
I belive it to foolish to paint it with such a broad stroke to include all lakes and streams. Its ONE study on ONE lake. And IMO as about as dumb as a walleye angler saying... ''Those muskies are eating all our walleyes''
I would agree with your point here if not for one key thing. In Minnesota when people speak up against muskies and try to say that they'll ruin the lake, they often use other lakes as examples to back up their arguement. It seems that about 75% point to Lake Miltona when doing this (because that's where the group "no more muskies" started up ). So this is much more than just a win for Lake Miltona.
I don't get your point... I said ''now you have proof for that body of water''.
So now there theory dose not hold water. correct Aaron? So now the 75% can not point to lake Miltona for an example. Definate win!
So are you saying the group ''no more muskies'' have other lakes that prove there theory? Care to mention those lakes?
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| guest - 2/12/2010 2:04 PM
I don't get your point... I said ''now you have proof for that body of water''.
So now there theory dose not hold water. correct Aaron? So now the 75% can not point to lake Miltona for an example. Definate win!
So are you saying the group ''no more muskies'' have other lakes that prove there theory? Care to mention those lakes?
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| Yes the lord is good!
god bless. |
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| honestly I think we should try and get the designation "WALLEYE' removed from bait makers practices,,,instead using Brown Pike,Brown Perch,etc
We go out in 3ft November waves heave huge baits talk about how much dedication/ time on the water it takes to get that trophy and the confidence bait we turn to in order to get the job done in alot of this is a 'walleye" color,,,,,that dosent exactly support our arguments and sends a bad signal to the general fishing person
A couple of general public fisherman walk into a tackle shop and see 14 inch jakes hanging on the wall and are amazed at the huge baits the muskie guys use,,look at the tag,,$30 and walleye color,,,"WOW $30 for this big walleye bait,,and those muskie guys are always saying they dont eat walleyes"
predator instinct they just hit it cause it looks wounded,looks like a sucker,it just runs at the right depth, If we name em walleye this is ammo that can be turned against us. |
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