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Steve S
Posted 5/18/2023 6:33 PM (#1020862)
Subject: Would you really?




Posts: 54


My question is . Would you really want to catch the world record Muskie?? Just think of all the abuse your going to take. It dosen't weight that much, it's not that long and on and on and on!!!!
Beagler410
Posted 5/18/2023 9:45 PM (#1020867 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?




Posts: 2


Yes, I would.

It would be the only musky I'd ever kill.
chuckski
Posted 5/18/2023 10:54 PM (#1020868 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?




Posts: 1194


Chances are slim to none, but at the same time I don't have tell a soul.
ToddM
Posted 5/19/2023 3:46 AM (#1020869 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?





Posts: 20180


Location: oswego, il
You have to wonder how many around the real benchmark that have been caught that nobody knows about.
Masqui-ninja
Posted 5/19/2023 6:01 AM (#1020872 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?





Posts: 1202


Location: Walker, MN
And hang it on a hook like a side of beef? No thanks.
Todd Mackall
Posted 5/19/2023 6:21 AM (#1020873 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: RE: Would you really?




Posts: 2


Yeah, I'd love to catch a fish of that size! However if I did, I definitely would not kill it, nor would I share the pic or info here or anywhere else on the internet. Seems like every time a very large fish is caught and posted here, with length and girth measurements, the keyboard warriors move into attack mode!

Like ToddM said, I'm guessing at least once, a World Record Class fish has been caught and released, without nary a word spoken!

Todd
kap
Posted 5/19/2023 7:39 AM (#1020875 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?




Posts: 536


Location: deephaven mn
Don't think i'd kill it either. Why? it would be a gaint fish, i would be extactic,elated and blown away.
it would be unforgetable and would love telling the story to anyone that asked. I wouldn't need a badge or a medal or my name in a book. It wouldn't change the way i felt. don't need to be a hero, i am not fishing for anyone elses thoughts. Just my own pleasure
North of 8
Posted 5/19/2023 7:44 AM (#1020876 - in reply to #1020873)
Subject: RE: Would you really?




Todd Mackall - 5/19/2023 6:21 AM

Yeah, I'd love to catch a fish of that size! However if I did, I definitely would not kill it, nor would I share the pic or info here or anywhere else on the internet. Seems like every time a very large fish is caught and posted here, with length and girth measurements, the keyboard warriors move into attack mode!

Like ToddM said, I'm guessing at least once, a World Record Class fish has been caught and released, without nary a word spoken!

Todd


After hearing about the abuse the late Tom Gelb received after keeping a 50lb fish, after releasing a couple thousand from his boat, I think your approach is the wise one.
Owner of the shop where I have my boat worked on has a replica of that fish on his wall and knew Gelb. He said it was terrible and that to a guy who was well known and respected in the musky community. As to the keyboard warriors who "know" how big a fish is from a pic on the net, maybe they should go work for the military as a satellite image specialist.
miket55
Posted 5/19/2023 9:13 AM (#1020877 - in reply to #1020876)
Subject: RE: Would you really?




Posts: 1208


Location: E. Tenn
North of 8 - 5/19/2023 8:44 AM

After hearing about the abuse the late Tom Gelb received after keeping a 50lb fish, after releasing a couple thousand from his boat, I think your approach is the wise one.
Owner of the shop where I have my boat worked on has a replica of that fish on his wall and knew Gelb. He said it was terrible and that to a guy who was well known and respected in the musky community. As to the keyboard warriors who "know" how big a fish is from a pic on the net, maybe they should go work for the military as a satellite image specialist.


This occurred before the advent of the internet.. could you imagine the s**t storm that would brew over this these days?

To answer the question.. "No", and the same goes for any other species..

ToddM
Posted 5/19/2023 9:19 AM (#1020878 - in reply to #1020876)
Subject: RE: Would you really?





Posts: 20180


Location: oswego, il
North of 8 - 5/19/2023 7:44 AM

Todd Mackall - 5/19/2023 6:21 AM

Yeah, I'd love to catch a fish of that size! However if I did, I definitely would not kill it, nor would I share the pic or info here or anywhere else on the internet. Seems like every time a very large fish is caught and posted here, with length and girth measurements, the keyboard warriors move into attack mode!

Like ToddM said, I'm guessing at least once, a World Record Class fish has been caught and released, without nary a word spoken!

Todd


After hearing about the abuse the late Tom Gelb received after keeping a 50lb fish, after releasing a couple thousand from his boat, I think your approach is the wise one.
Owner of the shop where I have my boat worked on has a replica of that fish on his wall and knew Gelb. He said it was terrible and that to a guy who was well known and respected in the musky community. As to the keyboard warriors who "know" how big a fish is from a pic on the net, maybe they should go work for the military as a satellite image specialist.


I remember the attacks it was disgusting even bashing him saying he was too old to be out there.
Kirby Budrow
Posted 5/19/2023 9:31 AM (#1020880 - in reply to #1020878)
Subject: Re: Would you really?





Posts: 2279


Location: Chisholm, MN
I would love to catch it. Document it well and there's nothing to say negative. I know i would release it and not worry about claiming the record but I would not hide that I caught one that big.
CincySkeez
Posted 5/19/2023 9:32 AM (#1020881 - in reply to #1020877)
Subject: Re: Would you really?





Posts: 596


Location: Duluth
I have little doubt that there have been several fish landed that are bigger than the current MN state record. I'm sure we will see some more large fish sharpshot and killed in pursuit of the record this summer/fall.
anzomcik
Posted 5/19/2023 12:13 PM (#1020887 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?





Posts: 529


Would I want to? Sure, who wouldn't want to catch it.

Would I keep it? Absolutely, probably do the same for a state record fish. It would not be for selfish reasons either.

I found no matter what you do in life there will be people voicing an opinion, do not pay attention to them. Really that simple.

These fish are not sacred, in fact there are more musky alive now than probably any other time in history. 1 fish will not crash the population. Every year more muskies are made, and stocking techniques are improving all the time. The species is doing just fine.

All that being said, it would be the only musky I would keep in my life. I would like to think the amount of information that could be gathered from this fish would benefit to the species as a whole. Not a lot of outrage when in the name of science an animal is killed for the sake of the study.

To put the WR chatter to rest with an undisputed across the board legit record would save hours of peoples lives through the winter as they bicker about the biggest fish ever caught.

Best part is, I will probably never catch a fish that big, so I have nothing to worry about.

Edited by anzomcik 5/19/2023 12:15 PM
North of 8
Posted 5/19/2023 12:21 PM (#1020888 - in reply to #1020877)
Subject: RE: Would you really?




miket55 - 5/19/2023 9:13 AM

North of 8 - 5/19/2023 8:44 AM

After hearing about the abuse the late Tom Gelb received after keeping a 50lb fish, after releasing a couple thousand from his boat, I think your approach is the wise one.
Owner of the shop where I have my boat worked on has a replica of that fish on his wall and knew Gelb. He said it was terrible and that to a guy who was well known and respected in the musky community. As to the keyboard warriors who "know" how big a fish is from a pic on the net, maybe they should go work for the military as a satellite image specialist.


This occurred before the advent of the internet.. could you imagine the s**t storm that would brew over this these days?

To answer the question.. "No", and the same goes for any other species..

No, the internet was definitely around when Tom Gelb caught that fish. Friend in northern WI emailed me a pic right after it was caught. I think social media is a lot more prevalent and folks are meaner today.

Solitario Lupo
Posted 5/19/2023 1:19 PM (#1020889 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?





Location: PA Angler
I would love to catch the record but not sure if I would keep it. Would like to have it weighed and then release. For all the BS comment’s probably wouldn’t even look at any of them even the good ones.

The only time I would brag about it is if face to face haha.
esoxaddict
Posted 5/19/2023 2:22 PM (#1020891 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?





Posts: 8719


I don't know. Imagine knowing that every time you fish there's basically no chance of catching a bigger fish than you already have. I doubt I'd be able to clobber it, either. Figure if it's healthy enough to eat it's probably still breeding, so why take that out of the gene pool? That, and I wouldn't want the BS.
bturg
Posted 5/19/2023 3:02 PM (#1020892 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?




Posts: 714


Food for thought:

Defining the "World Record" is the first issue. Is it the one they recognize in Hayward ? the one that was caught and released on the Larry? The one that was released about ten years ago in NW Ontario? the one the ten year old caught on a snoopy rod and crappie jig ? All to say that there isn't really one. There are more than a few entities claiming that theirs is the one or starting a new category for one but for all intents and purposes is there really an accurate one ? Now if someone catches and wacks a legit 75 pounder then I guess we will have one. Until then every other "record" is a paper champion.

Example: the state of MN started a new release category record with good intentions but to imply that any fish entered in and recognized as a "record fish" is nonsense as a true record has to eclipse any fish caught previously...which we know is not the case. So on paper it's a record(paper champion)...in reality it's the largest fish that someone decided to enter since the category was established not the biggest ever caught.
sworrall
Posted 5/19/2023 3:53 PM (#1020896 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?





Posts: 32798


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I have been lucky enough to catch a few big fish over my life, and quite a few since OFM started this place. I took a lot of heat over a couple in particular, one from Oneida County WI, and one from NW Ontario. I intentionally listed them shorter than they actually were (and they were measured by a guy who worked boom shocking and recording muskies for the WIDNR), and STILL.... Since then I've caught a couple and didn't say much at all. Not that I personally give a poo about what some random monitor jock thinks six shots into the evening, I don't. And, it's actually a lot better now than it was.

I never thought I'd catch a WR and I won't, but I did have a PB goal and reached it, barely. As long as we are releasing the fish, any real new record will be paper and digital images only, and that's OK with me.
jchiggins
Posted 5/19/2023 3:56 PM (#1020898 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?




Posts: 1759


Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn
Well said Bob
chuckski
Posted 5/20/2023 11:49 PM (#1020913 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?




Posts: 1194


I fish some places I know there a odd giant swimming around, Then you catch it whack it and it's way bigger then anything I've caught And you get into town and get it on a scale and it's not what you think you have. Feeling sick. I fish a lot by myself and out of small rental boats, the plan is to get it into shallow water get a picture of the fish in the water then bail out and unhook it in the water and get a measurement in the water and hope it turns out OK. (or with luck some help from a bystander)
BillM
Posted 5/22/2023 11:06 AM (#1020953 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?





Posts: 166


Absolutely. I'd take every measurement, get video and see her swim away afterwards. No way I'd ever kill a fish like that.
RJ_692
Posted 5/23/2023 7:41 AM (#1020978 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?




Posts: 357


i have seen one fish i believe was legitimately pushing 60". Even just saying so out loud will bring eye rolls. After that, i think often what would have happened if we would have gotten that fish to eat. Who is actually prepared to deal with a fish that size. i think ultimately we would have let it go.

What would be cool was if there was a way to call a state or provincial DNR type if you had a legitimate contender, they could come with a survey boat with a tank and document it.

For as sad as i think it is when somebody gets bashed by the musky elitism after claiming a big fish, there are just as many liars.
Kirby Budrow
Posted 5/23/2023 9:43 AM (#1020983 - in reply to #1020978)
Subject: Re: Would you really?





Posts: 2279


Location: Chisholm, MN
RJ_692 - 5/23/2023 7:41 AM

i have seen one fish i believe was legitimately pushing 60". Even just saying so out loud will bring eye rolls. After that, i think often what would have happened if we would have gotten that fish to eat. Who is actually prepared to deal with a fish that size. i think ultimately we would have let it go.

What would be cool was if there was a way to call a state or provincial DNR type if you had a legitimate contender, they could come with a survey boat with a tank and document it.

For as sad as i think it is when somebody gets bashed by the musky elitism after claiming a big fish, there are just as many liars.


I agree. No wonder people bash or shame people's fish. We're all used to seeing people lie about their fish. But a bump board picture or video, girth measurement and a weight if possible are hard to deny.
North of 8
Posted 5/23/2023 10:05 AM (#1020984 - in reply to #1020983)
Subject: Re: Would you really?




A few years ago, one of my nephews brought an album of his better musky catches for the year to a family gathering. He had them marked on the back, so was not relying solely on memory. There were a couple that were just over 40 that looked much larger, something to do with the way they were held I guess. On the other hand, he was sitting down, with his arms wrapped around a fish that was 53.5 inches, with a huge girth, caught on Green Bay in late fall. That the fish was very big, there was no doubt, but maybe because he was sitting with the fish held against himself, it didn't look quite that long. Or maybe because of the huge girth, the length didn't appear to be as great. He is a tall guy, wearing heavy clothes because of the cold. I have seen a lot of pics of him holding fish, may have even taken a couple but never saw him sit and hold one.
That experience told me that even with quality images, time to look at them, it is hard to judge. At least for me.
gimruis
Posted 5/23/2023 12:53 PM (#1020996 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?




Posts: 103


Statistically, there is a better chance to get struck by lightning twice and win the lottery all in the same day than there is to catch the next world record muskie, according to Outdoor News.

I would take a photo, measurement, and then release it.
chasintails
Posted 5/24/2023 9:27 AM (#1021015 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?




Posts: 454


Would I want to, sure. I'd also like to arrow the world record whitetail buck and catch the world record Largemouth Bass.
Angling Oracle
Posted 5/25/2023 8:26 AM (#1021050 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?




Posts: 309


Location: Selkirk, Manitoba
There's a certain fish here that I'm after (well, hoping to cross paths with again - seen twice now - has been caught twice before over the years or has some twins with similar dimensions). If still alive and good condition would be a very impressive specimen. Would like to see it up close and document a healthy release - but not sure what would be shared. Definitely not the where and I'm not sure the size either. Nothing really to be gained and lots to lose when it comes to catching a musky that is in that record size category.

Edited by Angling Oracle 5/25/2023 8:52 AM
mbuck
Posted 6/6/2023 3:35 PM (#1021394 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: RE: Would you really?




Posts: 59


Yes I would. Can't think of any reason I wouldn't want to catch a fish that big.
Ranger
Posted 6/6/2023 9:44 PM (#1021412 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?





Posts: 3779


With a fish that might be a record I would take a quick pic or two and let her go. I don't give two #*#*s about my reputation, and I would never, ever tell where I caught the beast. She's a breeder with excellent genetics.
curdmudgeon
Posted 6/7/2023 7:59 PM (#1021448 - in reply to #1020862)
Subject: Re: Would you really?





Posts: 115


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxEkxOeDY08

settle it! that fish has 10,000 offspring already. according to some, its morally superior to have that fish as worm food instead of history.
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