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Message Subject: so do you think the border will actually open next month?
KingT
Posted 7/22/2021 12:53 PM (#982523 - in reply to #982517)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?




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Abu7000 - 7/22/2021 11:14 AM

As of today, it looks as if one can not enter Canada by water so even if one gets to The Angle, they will not be able to fish Canadian waters.


Doesn't the border restrictions end August 9??
Abu7000
Posted 7/22/2021 3:39 PM (#982524 - in reply to #982523)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?




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Not by water...as of now...

Edited by Abu7000 7/22/2021 3:40 PM
Dave T.
Posted 7/22/2021 4:50 PM (#982527 - in reply to #982524)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?





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Abu7000 - 7/22/2021 3:39 PM

Not by water...as of now...



august 9th that is supposed to change..
Abu7000
Posted 7/22/2021 6:17 PM (#982529 - in reply to #982272)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?




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Not as of today according to the border officers...no plans to chahane this have been announced...
Dave T.
Posted 7/22/2021 6:34 PM (#982530 - in reply to #982529)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?





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Abu7000 - 7/22/2021 6:17 PM

Not as of today according to the border officers...no plans to chahane this have been announced...


https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/19/world/us-canada-border-opening/index....
RLSea
Posted 7/22/2021 8:29 PM (#982531 - in reply to #982272)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?




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Location: Northern Illinois
See the bottom of the page. https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/prog/canpass/rabc-pfre/menu-eng.html
Abu7000
Posted 7/23/2021 8:43 AM (#982538 - in reply to #982272)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?




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https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/entering-canad...

Requirements for entering Canada by private boat
You currently cannot enter Canadian waters for optional reasons, such as:

touring
sightseeing
pleasure fishing
visits to cottages/vacation homes across the border
You must report to the Canada Border Services Agency if:

your vessel lands on Canadian soil at any point
your vessel anchors, moors or comes alongside another vessel in Canadian waters
anyone onboard disembarks in Canada
For more information on reporting and border clearance, consult:

Reporting requirements for private boaters
Dave T.
Posted 7/23/2021 9:25 AM (#982541 - in reply to #982272)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?





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thats now abu7000, that will change august 9th is what they are saying...
Dan Klis
Posted 7/23/2021 3:35 PM (#982545 - in reply to #982541)
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ABU7000 and I both live at the Angle. I have been told by several of the resort owners no we will not be able to fish Canadian Waters after 8/9. They have been in discussions with CBSA. There is a very hefty fine they can levy if you are caught. But agree with all its BS
Angling Oracle
Posted 7/23/2021 4:00 PM (#982547 - in reply to #982272)
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Location: Selkirk, Manitoba
Considering that it is not reciprocal, I don't see what benefit Canada gets by allowing US citizens staying at US resorts to come across and fish in Canada, spend nothing, and then go back. Actually it is only a net costs in increased border activity and paperwork that could be better utilized on paying tourists. Very simple math on that one.

The traffic in the well know current spots is going to be ugly enough as it is...

Edited by Angling Oracle 7/23/2021 4:08 PM
Dave T.
Posted 7/23/2021 4:40 PM (#982549 - in reply to #982545)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?





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Dan Klis - 7/23/2021 3:35 PM

ABU7000 and I both live at the Angle. I have been told by several of the resort owners no we will not be able to fish Canadian Waters after 8/9. They have been in discussions with CBSA. There is a very hefty fine they can levy if you are caught. But agree with all its BS


well thats interesting.. so if you cross the border and go up and stay in canada, you can fish their waters, but you cant stay at a US resort and fish in canadian waters.. huh... that is lame..
SummerSchool
Posted 7/26/2021 9:26 AM (#982600 - in reply to #982272)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?




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Location: Cheyenne, WY most of the year
Getting a little worried that our increased numbers are going to make canada not reopen. Anyone else getting nervous?
North of 8
Posted 7/26/2021 10:01 AM (#982601 - in reply to #982600)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?




SummerSchool - 7/26/2021 9:26 AM

Getting a little worried that our increased numbers are going to make canada not reopen. Anyone else getting nervous?


Hard to guess what will happen but the New York Times story I read last week indicated Canada's focus was on their high rate of vaccination as opposed to the level of vaccination in the states. And they are requiring proof of vaccination for anyone entering.
Dave T.
Posted 7/26/2021 10:08 AM (#982603 - in reply to #982600)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?





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SummerSchool - 7/26/2021 9:26 AM

Getting a little worried that our increased numbers are going to make canada not reopen. Anyone else getting nervous?


i dont think it will change because one, you have to be vaccinated to cross, and two, you have to have a negative test also to cross..

so technically you should be safe if you meet those 2 requirements..

but ya never know, especially with the low vaccination rates down here.. which i still dont understand myself...
killdeer
Posted 7/27/2021 6:39 AM (#982635 - in reply to #982272)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?




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Proof of vacancies within 14 days, 72 hour negative test results, quarantine plan if you show symptoms while in Canada. I’m guessing that shrinks the amount of people that will “flood “ into Canada.
welfaretrain
Posted 7/27/2021 8:16 AM (#982640 - in reply to #982600)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?




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SummerSchool - 7/26/2021 9:26 AM

Getting a little worried that our increased numbers are going to make canada not reopen. Anyone else getting nervous?


Yes. If that's the case hopefully we can get our deposit back and just fish up in the Cass Lake area...
pickolish1
Posted 8/13/2021 9:06 AM (#984064 - in reply to #982272)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?




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Sorry for the late post.
Yes I do.
Dave T.
Posted 8/13/2021 9:27 AM (#984066 - in reply to #984064)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?





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pickolish1 - 8/13/2021 9:06 AM

Sorry for the late post.
Yes I do.


lol! i think you may be correct! i just hope it stays open now!
redskeet100
Posted 8/13/2021 12:31 PM (#984068 - in reply to #982474)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?




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Location: Tulsa, OK
North of 8 - 7/21/2021 11:24 AM

redskeet100 - 7/21/2021 10:27 AM

So the US has decided to extend the closure of the Canadian and Mexico borders thru Aug 21st. But they allow a couple hundred thousand thru the Mexico border all year. What sense does this make?


Well, every year there are thousands of temp visas granted for agricultural workers. We wouldn't have any produce in our grocery stores without them. Me, I like to eat.
Noah's Ark, the largest water park in the world in Wis. Dells had trouble getting enough foreign workers this year so they close every Wednesday.


Let's not confuse the temp workers with the influx of thousands coming across daily. Many who have COVID. Just makes no sense to shutdown 1 border and let another one go like the turnstyles at Disney World.
North of 8
Posted 8/13/2021 7:02 PM (#984078 - in reply to #984068)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?




redskeet100 - 8/13/2021 12:31 PM

North of 8 - 7/21/2021 11:24 AM

redskeet100 - 7/21/2021 10:27 AM

So the US has decided to extend the closure of the Canadian and Mexico borders thru Aug 21st. But they allow a couple hundred thousand thru the Mexico border all year. What sense does this make?


Well, every year there are thousands of temp visas granted for agricultural workers. We wouldn't have any produce in our grocery stores without them. Me, I like to eat.
Noah's Ark, the largest water park in the world in Wis. Dells had trouble getting enough foreign workers this year so they close every Wednesday.


Let's not confuse the temp workers with the influx of thousands coming across daily. Many who have COVID. Just makes no sense to shutdown 1 border and let another one go like the turnstyles at Disney World.


The thousands coming across the southern border are not entering legally. They cross rivers, deserts and even mountains to get in. If we really wanted to stop them, we would require all employers to use the E-Verify system. But, since big dairy farms, meat processors, etc. want plenty of cheap labor, that is not done.
If my family was starving, I would try and find a better life, even if it meant crossing a border illegally. We should throw the folks that hire illegals in jail, that would take care of the issue. Before I retired, I worked for a federally chartered bank. To set up a checking account we had to verify the SS# with the feds, similar to the E-Verify pre-employment check. On just about a weekly basis we denied checking accounts for folks who brought in pay checks from farms. The SS# was bogus, or belonged to someone with a different name, age, gender, etc..
ToddM
Posted 8/13/2021 10:22 PM (#984081 - in reply to #984078)
Subject: Re: so do you think the border will actually open next month?





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Location: oswego, il
North of 8 - 8/13/2021 7:02 PM

redskeet100 - 8/13/2021 12:31 PM

North of 8 - 7/21/2021 11:24 AM

redskeet100 - 7/21/2021 10:27 AM

So the US has decided to extend the closure of the Canadian and Mexico borders thru Aug 21st. But they allow a couple hundred thousand thru the Mexico border all year. What sense does this make?


Well, every year there are thousands of temp visas granted for agricultural workers. We wouldn't have any produce in our grocery stores without them. Me, I like to eat.
Noah's Ark, the largest water park in the world in Wis. Dells had trouble getting enough foreign workers this year so they close every Wednesday.


Let's not confuse the temp workers with the influx of thousands coming across daily. Many who have COVID. Just makes no sense to shutdown 1 border and let another one go like the turnstyles at Disney World.


The thousands coming across the southern border are not entering legally. They cross rivers, deserts and even mountains to get in. If we really wanted to stop them, we would require all employers to use the E-Verify system. But, since big dairy farms, meat processors, etc. want plenty of cheap labor, that is not done.
If my family was starving, I would try and find a better life, even if it meant crossing a border illegally. We should throw the folks that hire illegals in jail, that would take care of the issue. Before I retired, I worked for a federally chartered bank. To set up a checking account we had to verify the SS# with the feds, similar to the E-Verify pre-employment check. On just about a weekly basis we denied checking accounts for folks who brought in pay checks from farms. The SS# was bogus, or belonged to someone with a different name, age, gender, etc..


When you only bite on the fear and hate narrative the rest is jibberish.
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