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sworrall
Posted 4/13/2021 10:01 AM (#977986)
Subject: World-Famous or Legendary Muskie “Hotspots” – Part VIII





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World-Famous or Legendary Muskie “Hotspots” – Part VIII

by Larry Ramsell, Muskellunge Historian

Let us now return to the Turtle-Flambeau Flowage in Wisconsin, and cover “Hotspot” number three there. I’ll again note that the two largest verified muskies caught from this log-laden Pond, both over 50-pounds, were caught by women! This second one will likely make us anglers wonder again if we are doing the right things.

 

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IAJustin
Posted 4/13/2021 11:11 AM (#977989 - in reply to #977986)
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Larry these are fun reads, thank you! That Knobla hybrid just doesn't look anywhere close to as large as claimed to me? why take a photo with the fish 3 feet in front of the angler...even 100 years ago fisherman where trying to make fish "look big" ha! ...anyway fun to see the history!
RMWELLS71
Posted 4/13/2021 12:13 PM (#977992 - in reply to #977986)
Subject: Re: World-Famous or Legendary Muskie “Hotspots” – Part VIII




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Waste of time. Record will never be broken with the amount of fishing pressure now a days.
Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/13/2021 12:40 PM (#977994 - in reply to #977986)
Subject: Re: World-Famous or Legendary Muskie “Hotspots” – Part VIII




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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
IAJustin: I can't speak to the "why" certain things were done taking pictures, both now and in the past. However, if you read Ron Lax's comment on the size differences between the Knobla and the Ott-Lapp Tigers, Knobla's was HUGE, despite the way the photo's were taken.
IAJustin
Posted 4/13/2021 12:53 PM (#977997 - in reply to #977986)
Subject: Re: World-Famous or Legendary Muskie “Hotspots” – Part VIII




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Ron Lax held the fish in 1919?
ToddC
Posted 4/13/2021 12:55 PM (#977998 - in reply to #977992)
Subject: Re: World-Famous or Legendary Muskie “Hotspots” – Part VIII




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RMWELLS71 - 4/13/2021 12:13 PM

Waste of time. Record will never be broken with the amount of fishing pressure now a days.



Maybe I’m just an eternal optimist but I disagree. I believe there are huge fish out there that have never seen a lure. Read Larry’s article on Bill Hamblin and the vast Georgian Bay waters for example. There is no doubt in my mind that there is a fish in water like that that would LEGITIMATELY break the record book.

Thanks Larry for sharing these great stories! They have always intrigued me and have been the source of many dreams and nightmares! For me, I’ll keep believing and casting away. Good luck to everyone this season!
Rob C
Posted 4/14/2021 9:41 AM (#978015 - in reply to #977986)
Subject: Re: World-Famous or Legendary Muskie “Hotspots” – Part VIII




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Great read as always, Thanks Larry!

Any chance the compendiums will be updated to include some of the larger fish caught in the late 2000's and 2010s? Thinking of McNair and the like.

Edited by Rob C 4/14/2021 9:45 AM
Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/14/2021 10:21 AM (#978022 - in reply to #977986)
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
IAJustin: No, but he did completely un-mount and re-mount both fish. He said based on the size of the skin of both fish he could see no difference between them.

Rob C: Very doubtful there will be a 4th Edition
R/T
Posted 4/15/2021 10:55 AM (#978055 - in reply to #977986)
Subject: Re: World-Famous or Legendary Muskie “Hotspots” – Part VIII




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IMO the Ott-Lapp fish is one of the greatest muskie catches of all time. A 56" full bodied hybrid? Spectacular.
North of 8
Posted 4/15/2021 1:01 PM (#978056 - in reply to #978055)
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Is there a reason that these giant tigers came out of Lac Vieux Desert? Just chance or something special about the lake? Great stories, great fish.
TylerTutt
Posted 4/15/2021 3:08 PM (#978061 - in reply to #977986)
Subject: Re: World-Famous or Legendary Muskie “Hotspots” – Part VIII




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My grandfather was a guide on the TFF so this was an awesome read!! Not too many giants in there anymore. Big George is still lurking around there somewhere
TylerTutt
Posted 4/15/2021 3:10 PM (#978062 - in reply to #977986)
Subject: Re: World-Famous or Legendary Muskie “Hotspots” – Part VIII




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My grandfather actually took that first photo, crazy!
Reef Hawg
Posted 4/15/2021 8:33 PM (#978081 - in reply to #977986)
Subject: Re: World-Famous or Legendary Muskie “Hotspots” – Part VIII




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Location: north central wisconsin
Speaking of one of the TFF women, I'd give alot to go back and share a ride with Dick and Rita on one of those fall days. Dick was the best of the best, at a time when those waters came of age. Talked to him a couple of times in the late 90's and though nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs am so glad I picked up the phone and called

Edited by Reef Hawg 4/15/2021 8:39 PM
Clark A
Posted 4/15/2021 11:26 PM (#978091 - in reply to #978056)
Subject: Re: World-Famous or Legendary Muskie “Hotspots” – Part VIII




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Location: Bloomington, MN
The lake(Lac Vieux Desert) is rather shallow and in certain years an early thaw would allow the pike and muskie spawning to overlap. Same for Pelican, just south, which I believe produced the third largest tiger. That corridor still coughs up a big tiger every few years.

Edited by Clark A 4/15/2021 11:58 PM
Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/16/2021 11:35 AM (#978121 - in reply to #977986)
Subject: Re: World-Famous or Legendary Muskie “Hotspots” – Part VIII




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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
North of 8 asked: "Is there a reason that these giant tigers came out of Lac Vieux Desert? Just chance or something special about the lake? Great stories, great fish."

Clark A's response covers part of the reason(s). Wisconsin DNR's "Mr. Muskie", the late Art Oehmcke said at one time many years ago that 50% of the muskies caught from Lac Vieux desert were tigers. While that hasn't been the case for a long time, early spawning in this shallow pond when there is a warm spring, still contributes to a great Tiger population there. And they still get big.

Also, I believe the original genetics there were special and long, long ago (thousands of years) muskies had access to LVD from the Great lakes from the north!!! In addition, fish from the Mississippi Refugium also had access to LVD from the south.

Something to think about.
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