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| The two lakes that come to mind are Teal and Lost Land in Wis, with I believe is a ten mile an hr. speed limit. But do you think more lakes can be added to the list? Do you think it is really necessary to have 70mph boats on lakes less than 500 - 1000acres? Kdawg |
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| One more thought, I don't want to lose my outboard motor in the near future. So, the idea here is it could create some common ground between the environmentalists and the guys who want to keep and fish out of their high powered rigs. Kdawg |
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| My preference would be 10mph or less before 10:00 am.and after 4:00 pm. Leaving six hours on the middle of the day to exceed 10mph |
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| Lots of recreational boaters including homeowners would oppose a 10 mph speed limit. Might be able to get something done early and late as the above poster suggests if lake associations approve. But also keep in mind at 10 mph most boats cannot get on plane. And then you have enforcement. I am thinking of a DNR guy or police officer on every lake. I hope we do not have to be so scared. |
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| I believe there are some lakes here in northern WI that have some restrictions on when you can operate personal watercraft. The lake association I belong to had a member suggest a 6 or 7 hour period during the warmer part of the day, but I guess the majority didn't see the need. Never heard any discussion about limiting speed, with exception of marked channels. That gets to be a hot topic. |
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| R/T - 4/17/2020 10:06 AM
Lots of recreational boaters including homeowners would oppose a 10 mph speed limit. Might be able to get something done early and late as the above poster suggests if lake associations approve. But also keep in mind at 10 mph most boats cannot get on plane. And then you have enforcement. I am thinking of a DNR guy or police officer on every lake. I hope we do not have to be so scared.
10 mph is unreasonable. I couldn't get on plane and would need an hour to cross the lake in the morning to go fish? I think 40 mph is perfectly fine to go anywhere and is relatively safe, but like you point out thats even harder to enforce than no-wake. |
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Location: oswego, il | I have not been on Ghost but I have Lost Land and Teal. While there isn't pleasure boating(except pontoons), skiing or jetsking, the 10mph speed limit is not at all ahered to.
Having said that I would not mind most of the lakes being 10mph.
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | ToddM - 4/17/2020 12:09 PM
I have not been on Ghost but I have Lost Land and Teal. While there isn't pleasure boating(except pontoons), skiing or jetsking, the 10mph speed limit is not at all ahered to.
Having said that I would not mind most of the lakes being 10mph.
The 10mph speed limit is to discourage the idiots who believe that since this is America, they can do whatever they want, wherever they want, whenever they want without respect to the people who live wherever it is they are doing it.
While very few will complain about a boat getting on plane to go from fishing spot A to fishing spot B, just try waterskiing or jet-skiing and see how fast you'll be shut down. |
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| The more progressive lake associations have simply limited water skiing and PWC operation to 10:00 AM to 6:00 PM. |
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| pstrombe - 4/17/2020 4:31 PM
The more progressive lake associations have simply limited water skiing and PWC operation to 10:00 AM to 6:00 PM.
As I mentioned, some in our association talked about some limits, but majority just didn't see the need. Once and a while you will get some guy on a PWC who decides to set up in the lake not far off our dock and spin donuts for 10-15 minutes. Not sure why they think that is fun but it is not a big deal, since it only happens once or twice a year. Like I told one neighbor who was all upset about it, I would prefer that to the musky fisherman who can't cast worth s*** and clank big lures off my pontoon and fishing boat, both of which are well up off the water on lifts. I get that a lot more than once or twice a year.
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| Vilas15 - 4/17/2020 11:54 AM
R/T - 4/17/2020 10:06 AM
Lots of recreational boaters including homeowners would oppose a 10 mph speed limit. Might be able to get something done early and late as the above poster suggests if lake associations approve. But also keep in mind at 10 mph most boats cannot get on plane. And then you have enforcement. I am thinking of a DNR guy or police officer on every lake. I hope we do not have to be so scared.
10 mph is unreasonable. I couldn't get on plane and would need an hour to cross the lake in the morning to go fish? I think 40 mph is perfectly fine to go anywhere and is relatively safe, but like you point out thats even harder to enforce than no-wake.
Only if your lake is 10 miles wide. I've been on Teal and Lost Land, and had no issues only going 10 mph. They are small lakes, no need for speed. |
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| TCESOX - 4/17/2020 4:54 PM
Vilas15 - 4/17/2020 11:54 AM
R/T - 4/17/2020 10:06 AM
Lots of recreational boaters including homeowners would oppose a 10 mph speed limit. Might be able to get something done early and late as the above poster suggests if lake associations approve. But also keep in mind at 10 mph most boats cannot get on plane. And then you have enforcement. I am thinking of a DNR guy or police officer on every lake. I hope we do not have to be so scared.
10 mph is unreasonable. I couldn't get on plane and would need an hour to cross the lake in the morning to go fish? I think 40 mph is perfectly fine to go anywhere and is relatively safe, but like you point out thats even harder to enforce than no-wake.
Only if your lake is 10 miles wide. I've been on Teal and Lost Land, and had no issues only going 10 mph. They are small lakes, no need for speed.
I am not familiar, if a lake is small enough you can cross it without getting on plane in minutes, than thats fine with me. I do fish a lake that is right at 1000 acres and over 2 minutes long. If I move spots a few times and it takes 10-15 minutes everytime that is too slow. I think the issue is with something like jetskis, where the enjoyment of it is driving fast. So if you're out there for an hour, you're ripping around high speed for an hour. If you're fishing and driving between spots you spend maybe 5% of the time actually driving the boat.
Either a lake is small enough to have a speed limit below planing speeds, or it isn't. The time limits on PWCs or skiing don't seem to affect anything based on others comments, I think the boundary is somewhere between 0 and 500 acres. No way anything larger than 500 acres should have a 10 mph speed limit. |
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| 39 degrees - 4/17/2020 10:31 AM
My preference would be 10mph or less before 10:00 am.and after 4:00 pm. Leaving six hours on the middle of the day to exceed 10mph
Solid idea (at least where I fish). |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | NPike - 4/17/2020 5:14 PM
39 degrees - 4/17/2020 10:31 AM
My preference would be 10mph or less before 10:00 am.and after 4:00 pm. Leaving six hours on the middle of the day to exceed 10mph
Solid idea (at least where I fish ).
The Spider Lake Chain in Sawyer County has a similar rule |
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| I just toss medussas at the PWC as they do the donuts |
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Location: Already Gone | ToddM - 4/17/2020 12:09 PM
I have not been on Ghost but I have Lost Land and Teal. While there isn't pleasure boating(except pontoons), skiing or jetsking, the 10mph speed limit is not at all ahered to.
Having said that I would not mind most of the lakes being 10mph.
I would like to see ALL Wisconsin waterways go to 10mph or under for ALL of 2020.
Let's go back to the good old days....it would be safer, less expensive, and would weed out alot of the rift raft.
Or, just start with Vilas County. I'm all in. |
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| Not sure what the good old days were. In he mid 1960s, I started going up to the Harrison Hills and my uncle's 14' deep V aluminum with a new 9.9 went much faster than 10 mph |
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| Do you guys really want to support ANY agenda in which lake owners/associations start dictating policy on the states public waters. That is a really slippery slope. |
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Location: SW Ohio | At 10 mph my Skeeter looks like a wake board boat and throws a huge wake. Is that better than going faster with less wake?. I can plane at 21-22 and generally cruise at 27-32 on our 2800 acre lake. One local state lake is controlled by a sailboat group. 10 hp limit. So guys put a 10hp on a 16-18' boat and run WOT throwing a huge wake behind them. Some of them have 10 hp stickers but are a bit over 10 hp...but that's another story. |
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| OH Musky - 4/19/2020 7:23 AM
At 10 mph my Skeeter looks like a wake board boat and throws a huge wake. Is that better than going faster with less wake?. I can plane at 21-22 and generally cruise at 27-32 on our 2800 acre lake. One local state lake is controlled by a sailboat group. 10 hp limit. So guys put a 10hp on a 16-18' boat and run WOT throwing a huge wake behind them. Some of them have 10 hp stickers but are a bit over 10 hp...but that's another story.
Very good point. Last summer I was fishing a mid lake rock hump and a large fiberglass pleasure boat came up the lake from a resort on the other end. At full throttle, small wake. But, when he got close to me, he slowed way down, trying to be courteous even though he was a probably 75 yards away. At slow speed that boat made waves that really rocked my 18' Pro V. I was surprised just how big his wake was. |
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Location: WI | bturg - 4/18/2020 10:46 PM
Do you guys really want to support ANY agenda in which lake owners/associations start dictating policy on the states public waters. That is a really slippery slope.
Agree. I threw up in my mouth a little reading about associations discussing imposing hours for PWV or speed limit. |
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Location: oswego, il | A lot of Indiana lakes have 10mph limits and pleasure boating restrictions from 1pm to 4pm. Granted these aren't big lakes but I am glad they have it. I could see where it could be an issue on a big lake and not many launches. |
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| As a lake association member (we have no restrictions on the chain where I live) a couple thoughts. Instead of the negative comments it would be nice if people would acknowledge even a little bit the things the association does to make things better for everyone. On the chain where I live, the biggest expense we have each year is paying to have someone put in and take out the navigation buoys in 5 different areas, pay someone to supplement the volunteers who check boats for invasives and because the little launch is town owned, but they don't have funds to maintain, those same volunteers pick up the trash left behind, like fishing line, lure boxes, sandwich bags, empty beer cans, broken whiskey bottles, worm containers, etc. The navigation buoys themselves cost a couple hundred a piece with anchors and there are a lot of them. And that is not counting the hazard buoys marking boulders and rock piles.
You might not like someone asking you about where your boat has been but it only takes a couple minutes.
I understand some folks don't like things lake associations favor, but in a lot of cases your experience is made better by the time and money those property owners put into the lakes.
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