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Location: Niagara on the Lake, ON | one million percent yes absolutely |
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| Yes! You will learn more on 1 guide trip than you will anywhere else.
But, ask around 1st about the guide....not all are equal |
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Location: NE Ohio | yep but do your research! |
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| it's like everything some worth it some don't |
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| It all depends on who they are, and what you're looking for. If you want to learn the ins and outs of a new lake, and your guide just runs the boat and fails to describe what you're fishing, why, and how best to fish it, you're wasting your money.
If you want to learn about lure selection, how to work your baits, how to execute a good figure 8, etc. and your guide is just fishing and not paying attention to what you could be doing better, you're wasting your money.
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| Best $$$ you will ever spend---- I have fished with many guides on many different bodies of water---Yes some are better than others BUT -- all have taught me things are advanced my learning curve.... Just do your research---You most likely will not be disappointed.. |
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Location: oswego, il | Yes it can cut your learning curve and is the best option if you have limited time to fish. |
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Location: Almond, WI | Yes, but as said above vet your guides, have reasonable expectations, and ask a lot of questions instead of just silently fishing. |
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Location: Niagara on the Lake, ON | I think it goes without saying - a bad guide will disappoint like any other bad service you pay for. What you really should do is to ask around for people who have fished wherever it is you are going and find out who the really good guides are and people who give good testimonials. A good guide will know the spots, the baits that are working, the best approaches to working baits etc. A guide will also take care of 100% of the boat driving concerns and so you can focus 100% on fishing. Ive fished with some amazing guides and learned a ton from them. Im sure lots of people on this forum can point you in a good direction
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| How many of you guys want the guide fishing? You are paying for his knowledge, gear, experience, not his ability to cast from the front of the boat. I don't buy the theory they need to fish to know if the fish are there.
Opinions? |
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | popcorns ready! |
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Location: Minnesota. | A guides not gonna spend all day just running you around in the boat and talking... |
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| Jeremy - 3/31/2018 8:55 PM
A guides not gonna spend all day just running you around in the boat and talking...
So, I should pay for his day of fishing? |
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Location: Des Plaines, IL | I absolutely want a guide fishing with me, 100%. Now, if we have two or three guys in the boat, then maybe not, but most of the time I've gone it's been just me, in which case I'd prefer to have more baits in the water. I think it's better to have at least two different baits going in order to have various presentations. Also, that's the person doing their due diligence for their upcoming clients, and I'm perfectly OK and accepting of that. Plus, when there's a bait I'm not confident in, particular jerk baits, I like to watch how someone who has experience fishes it so I can try and replicate or learn from their motions. |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | Brian Hoffies - 3/31/2018 9:17 PM
Jeremy - 3/31/2018 8:55 PM
A guides not gonna spend all day just running you around in the boat and talking...
So, I should pay for his day of fishing?[/QUOTE
First, He probably got into guiding so he could get paid to fish, not to give tours of the lake and wait hand and foot on people. If a guide casts, he should only do it from the back of the boat. I used to guide and I would feel the client out to see if the cared if I casted or not. I never wanted to catch a fish myself but did it to help motivate the client and because it’s painfully boring watching someone cast and screw up every opportunity they get.
So basically, yes you pay for him to fish. It’s part of it. |
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| The guides I have fished with have fished--and some asked me if it was Ok to do so----YES-- I have learned things and asked questions when I would see them do some things.... Never felt cheated if a Guide caught a fish--Actually found the day to be very enjoyable fishing with them--watching them and talking fishing situations. IT's not always abut the fish....
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Location: Minnesota. | Brian Hoffies - 3/31/2018 9:17 PM
Jeremy - 3/31/2018 8:55 PM
A guides not gonna spend all day just running you around in the boat and talking...
So, I should pay for his day of fishing?
Yep. Read the 3 replies below yours.
And thanx for your service, from one vet to another!!
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| if the guide would bust out in song , maybe dance, I would probably tip more. |
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Location: S.W. WI | A guide shouldn't be muskie fishing from the front, ahead of the client. However, I would always, and have insisted, the guide fishes with us.
You need someone trying other things behind you.
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If the guide was say maybe.... Mariko Izumi, I would gladly fish, or watch, from back of boat.
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| Yes, I want the guide fishing. Why wouldn't you?? The way I see it, I am paying to go fishing WITH him. Like someone said above, if you had 3 clients in the boat, then probably not, but otherwise yes. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | good guides can put you into your own game more effectively. be honest with yourself, know what you want to learn from them ahead of time. it's not about spots or baits, it's about process. take the time to learn their process and then use it as a foundation to go create your own game. |
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Location: oswego, il | The question you need to ask is what do you need a guide for? Do you need to learn to musky fish? A particular body of water? You know how to musky fish but don't have the time to do it? Don't have a boat? Some guides fish in the front, some from the back, alot of them will be fishing. Alot of them will be fishing with same or similar baits and if they experiment it is with color. If they are fishing they are trying to catch fish, if you are ok with that then that is fine. |
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| best thing you should do is the get a guide miles away from your house, imo the best one do not guide guys that live in the same region of the targeted body of water or if they are prompt to doing it they will not put you on their best spot and will not share their secrets .but some don't cares as soon as they get the green piece of papers but they start to cry as soon as their spots is covered of unknown boats. but for summer there is not a lot of things to learn other than find the humps or shallow flats covered of rock or weeds.feel free to pp me 450 usd lol |
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Location: Illinois | I get to fish quite a bit on weekends, and i know quite a bit about musky fishing. But i was having trouble on a particular body of water in my area. So with that said, is it worth it? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Question was already answered. |
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Location: Alexandria, Minnesota | being a guide, I honestly think that Muskies are the most over thought fish....Think about what most guides have to do is make catching muskies as simple as possible... Get guys in the boat that sit and talk about cold fronts, moon phases, barometer, wind directions more than I think about, and way over think the fish. Honestly it is more about being where their food is at and finding a fish that wants to eat...pretty simple. |
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Location: Minnesota. | Dave Williamson - 4/1/2018 10:51 AM
being a guide, I honestly think that Muskies are the most over thought fish....Think about what most guides have to do is make catching muskies as simple as possible... Get guys in the boat that sit and talk about cold fronts, moon phases, barometer, wind directions more than I think about, and way over think the fish. Honestly it is more about being where their food is at and finding a fish that wants to eat...pretty simple.
I like this!!
BTW, as for hiring a guide, my guide asked what my main intent was. I told him it was pretty simple...would be nice to boat a fish, obviously but the main reason I hired him was to learn! Plain n' simple!
He liked that...
Happy Easter ladies.... |
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Location: 31 | Dave Williamson - 4/1/2018 10:51 AM being a guide, I honestly think that Muskies are the most over thought fish....Think about what most guides have to do is make catching muskies as simple as possible... Get guys in the boat that sit and talk about cold fronts, moon phases, barometer, wind directions more than I think about, and way over think the fish. Honestly it is more about being where their food is at and finding a fish that wants to eat...pretty simple. Well said - X2!!! I think if someone is asking this question they have already answered it themselves.
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| Dave Williamson - 4/1/2018 10:51 AM
being a guide, I honestly think that Muskies are the most over thought fish....Think about what most guides have to do is make catching muskies as simple as possible... Get guys in the boat that sit and talk about cold fronts, moon phases, barometer, wind directions more than I think about, and way over think the fish. Honestly it is more about being where their food is at and finding a fish that wants to eat...pretty simple.
so true! same thing for colors or lures.as opportunist if they are hungry they will grab almost anything,anytime even during bluebird sky+eastern wind.the funniest part is when someone is taking the ph |
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