|
|
Posts: 2005
| The market for a 500 size reel is small, even smaller for lefty reels. Bass guys and inshore guys probably don't want a 500 size reel, much larger market for the 300 & 400 sizes. The most common reasons that stand out to to me of why muskie guys don't like the Tranx 500 is the size and cost. Muskie fishing is still small compared to bass. That isn't talking about international sales either. |
|
| |
|
Posts: 135
| Confirmed in an interview on Sunday by Dave Pfieffer (President, Shimano America):
- 300 and 400 sizes
- each size with a 5.8:1 or 7.6:1 ratio option.
http://www.hookup1090.com/show-archives/
Debut will be on March 1st in Long Beach.
http://www.fredhall.com/long-beach/
|
|
| |
|
Posts: 735
Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | Well, I just bought a nacl on eBay for a great price so I guess I'm going to need to wait for my tranx 400, I'm defiantly getting one though |
|
| |
|
Posts: 21
| I'll be at the Fred Hall show on March 1. I'll check it out and take some pictures and video of it. Reg inSoCal |
|
| |
|
Posts: 253
| Unfortunatly, the tranx was not shown at clermont, so we will have to wait for more info |
|
| |
|
Posts: 135
| From the Shimano Product Support section on TackleTour:
http://forums.tackletour.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=73877
Tranx 300/400
The Tranx family is now much larger and more diverse. Shimano created the large low profile reel market with the Tranx 500 model. The addition of the 300 and 400 sizes provides heavy duty low profile reels for multiple applications. We took several steps to improve durability for the saltwater market as well as the demanding freshwater anglers. Available in both right and left hand models in two gear ratios.
The compact body design allows for increased comfort and ergonomics. The physical size of the 300 is smaller than the current Curado 300E. We made the spool slightly taller to improve casting performance. It also aids in line pick up when using a slower gear ratio.
Coreprotect is a feature that we have been using in our spinning reel models for a few years. This is a water resistance design to prevent water entry in susceptible areas of the reel. We have now added this feature to the Tranx 300/400 model reels.
Worm shaft seal: The first area where water can enter the reel, when sitting in the rod holder taking ocean spray, or while fishing with the reel.
Anti-Reverse bearing seal: This is a common area for water to enter the reel from heavy spray on those rough days. Seals are used on both sides of the bearing to eliminate water from getting into the bearing.
Frame Seal 1: The pinion support bearing is a common area for corrosion when used in saltwater. We have made design changes to the spool and frame to eliminate water from entering this area. A special seal was also added to further reduce the possibility of water getting into the bearing and gear box.
Clutch Button Seal: Another common area for water to enter the reel from both spray and use. A seal has been added to the inside to keep water out.
Frame Seal 2: Special grease has been used between the side plate and frame to prevent entry through this area.
A special clutch retention mechanism was developed to prevent the clutch from tripping on a hard cast. We further reduced the chances for the clutch to trip by use of a new carbon handle knob (HG only). This greatly reduces the weight of the handle knob and inertia when casting.
The drag range has been adjusted for use with heavier lines. The drag curve is very steep and is appreciated when fishing with heavy braided line and leaders.
Gear strength and durability has been increased greatly over Curado 300E model.
Hagane body
Aluminum A-side plate (handle side)
Cross Carbon drag
22 pounds max drag (standard model), 18 pounds max drag (HG model)
X-Ship
VBS braking system
Escape Hatch side plate access
5.8:1 gear ratio (Standard) 30 inches per crank
7.6:1 gear ratio (HG) 40 inches per crank
300/301 Line Capacity Mono 12/230, 14/180, 17/150 Power Pro 40/195, 50/190, 65/125
400/401 Line Capacity Mono 12/330, 14/260, 20/160 Power Pro 50/275, 65/170, 80/140
5+1 S-ARB bearings
11.6 ounces (Standard) 12 ounces (HG)
(Tranx 300_400group_zpscgggxbsn.jpg)
(Tranx300 B side_zpskzbv0h3o.jpg)
(Tranx300-4_zpsdityyesr.jpg)
Attachments
----------------
 Tranx 300_400group_zpscgggxbsn.jpg (151KB - 430 downloads)
Tranx300 B side_zpskzbv0h3o.jpg (118KB - 422 downloads)
Tranx300-4_zpsdityyesr.jpg (122KB - 433 downloads)
|
|
| |
|
Posts: 667
Location: Wisconsin | Thanks Glaucus!! I like the idea of a beefier reel than the Curado! |
|
| |
|
Posts: 1000
| Literally drooling right now.
How is the IPT the same for the 300 and 400 in their respective model (standard and HG) if the gearing is the same?
Thanks! |
|
| |
|
Posts: 132
| 401HG may be my new Rubber reel come opener. |
|
| |
|
Posts: 1901
Location: MN | tolle141 - 1/18/2017 2:27 PM
Literally drooling right now.
How is the IPT the same for the 300 and 400 in their respective model (standard and HG) if the gearing is the same?
Thanks!
It can't be if the spool size is different as is implied. I have a feeling they are only showing the spec there for one of the two reels, otherwise you would see 4 different weights listed as well, instead of just two which is stated as being PG and HG weights. |
|
| |
|
Location: Contrarian Island | sure it can, spool width is probably wider on the 400..but same diameter... |
|
| |
|
Posts: 1425
Location: St. Lawrence River | Don't need one, don't need one, dont need one, don't need one, don't need one, don't need one, don't need one.... |
|
| |
|
Posts: 291
Location: Madison, WI | Well geesh, if anyone's got a beast 50 hs they are ready to sell........price point for this at 280 is nice. |
|
| |
|
Posts: 115
| BNelson will be ordering up these bad boyz. |
|
| |
|
Posts: 60
| I got a call from the local Shimano rep and he will have a 300 and 400 at our local sportsman show next week. I'm gonna head down there and play with them and get some pics. |
|
| |
|
| https://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/shimano-tranx-300-and-400....
$279.99 for the 300, $299.99 for the 400 |
|
| |
|
Posts: 1000
| BNelson - 1/18/2017 3:48 PM
sure it can, spool width is probably wider on the 400..but same diameter...
Yeah that's the only way I can see. I guess I'll have to see it in person to understand why anyone (chasing any fish) would choose the 300. Must be a reason. |
|
| |
|
Posts: 32798
Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Fish Shimano Facebook page. |
|
| |
|
Posts: 735
Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | Ok, sorry to high jack the thread but do you guys actually think that the tranx 400 will be more effective than the 500. I'm not saying anybody is wrong for wanting one, I'm probably going to get one myself but do you think it can hold its own with the 500? |
|
| |
|
Posts: 1425
Location: St. Lawrence River | Musky_Mo16 - 1/20/2017 9:10 PM
Ok, sorry to high jack the thread but do you guys actually think that the tranx 400 will be more effective than the 500. I'm not saying anybody is wrong for wanting one, I'm probably going to get one myself but do you think it can hold its own with the 500?
No. Nobody thinks that. Nothing can do what a Tranx 500 can do. It will just be a very impressive 400 sized option. |
|
| |
|
Posts: 735
Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | Ok, thank you for clearing that up. I thought some people were saying that the 400 could become the new 500, but I just couldn't see that happening. |
|
| |
|
Posts: 1100
| tolle141 - 1/19/2017 12:56 PM
BNelson - 1/18/2017 3:48 PM
sure it can, spool width is probably wider on the 400..but same diameter...
Yeah that's the only way I can see. I guess I'll have to see it in person to understand why anyone (chasing any fish ) would choose the 300. Must be a reason.
Have you tried casting with the 300d and 400D ?
The 300D feels A LOT smoother then the 400. Due to the lower exit angle from the narrow spool, when the line guide is all the way to one of the sides.
I have both the 300D and 400D and the 300 is 100% my go to reel for smaller stuff, (small jerks, spinnderbaits dc7, dc8 jackpods aso.) I will for sure get one of the 300 size "tranx". |
|
| |
|
Posts: 1000
| Musky_Mo16 - 1/20/2017 8:49 PM
Ok, thank you for clearing that up. I thought some people were saying that the 400 could become the new 500, but I just couldn't see that happening.
I think the 400 is going to take the majority of the 500's market share in the musky world. My personal gripe with the 500 was that it was too powerful. I constantly had moments with 10's where I felt like my blades were fouled with weeds. Nope, just too much power to feel them.
Steve - have you run this reel yet?
|
|
| |
|
Posts: 32798
Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Not yet, expecting one soon. |
|
| |
|
Posts: 69
Location: Pine River MN. | This morning I saw them in Musky Shops on line catalog. It looks like they will be available in March. |
|
| |
|
Posts: 23
| Sorry if I missed it but are they panning a 501? |
|
| |
|
Posts: 1100
| No they are not :/
|
|
| |
|
Posts: 101
| Shimano has them on their US site now...... |
|
| |
|
Posts: 132
| 30" per crank for all models? That can't be right. |
|
| |
|
Posts: 135
| 30" per crank for all models? That can't be right.
It should say 30" for the 5.8:1 models and 40" for the 7.6:1 models.
For comparison:
- Curado 300E, 65lb/120yds, 6.2:1 with 28"/crank
- Curado 300EJ, 65lb/120yds, 6.9:1 with 32"/crank
- Tranx 300A, 65lb/125yds, 5.8:1 with 30"/crank
- Tranx 300AHG, 65lb/125yds, 7.6:1 with 40"/crank
- Tranx 400A, 80lb/140yds, 5.8:1 with 30"/crank
- Tranx 400AHG, 80lb/140yds, 7.6:1 with 40"/crank
- Tranx 500PG, 80lb/210yds, 4.6:1 with 30"/crank
- Tranx 500HG, 80lb/210yds, 6.6:1 with 43"/crank
|
|
| |
