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Location: North St. Paul, MN | 14ledo81 - 5/19/2016 6:36 AM
muskyroller - 5/18/2016 2:54 PM
Nershi - 5/18/2016 12:25 PM
muskyroller - 5/18/2016 11:50 AM
Here is the response I got from my representative that voted to STOP any sort of new stocking...seems the "fear mongering" got to him! yikes...
"Thank you for contacting me about this issue. I understand your concern about musky stocking. However, it is important that that we maintain the population of other species in the waters and do not disrupt the current ecosystem in Minnesota lakes."
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I guess your representative doesn't believe the biologists that are hired by the state.
Here's my response back...
Chuck,
I'm upset you fell for the fear mongering that has been displayed by those in favor of this bill. There is no science behind any of these claims of "disruption to the current ecosystem." In fact the DNR and the actual science that has been done, proves otherwise. Populations of all game fish are helped by the addition of apex predators to the environment.
Not only limiting fishing opportunities for outdoors-men in our state you've set a precedent for private groups to establish legislature on public waters.
I like your response. Did he answer you yet?
No response yet, but I will when/if I get one  Edited by muskyroller 5/19/2016 1:40 PM
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| VonBraun - 5/19/2016 11:24 AM
bloodlight where did you get that list? THere is no record on "mybills" of a vote on SF2793 in the House?
Maybe it was not the list you all where looking for. It saw it on the Minnesota Muskie Alliance Facebook page. Here is a link to the video it was taken from.
https://youtu.be/E0x-5cfV5p8 |
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Location: Minnetonka | Muskie Treats - 5/19/2016 8:09 AM
We had the last House vote by 10 and then they left the board open and went around getting people to flip.
There's a chance we can kill it today so cross your fingers.
Hey Shawn, what was the result here? |
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| Do we have some good news ?????
Edited by happy hooker 5/23/2016 5:17 AM
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Location: Alex or Alek? | This is from the Minnesota Muskie Alliance facebook:
"The game and fish bill is dead. All the cooked up story's and misinformation didn't do them anything but make them look bad in the end. Stay positive and keep fighting Frank Schneider Jr. used to say, and with your help we were able to do just that. Thank you."
AWESOME NEWS!!!! Do we have any first hand accounts from what happened? |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | Congratulations ... |
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Location: MN | That is great news! I got an email from a Senator over the weekend saying they do not see this bill going anywhere. Any details on what killed it would be great.
Thanks to those folks at the capital fighting the good fight and to everyone who took the time to contact the reps. |
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| Nershi - 5/23/2016 7:47 AM
I got an email from a Senator over the weekend saying they do not see this bill going anywhere.
I got that email too! 
This was from Twin Cities Muskies Inc this morning:
"This years game and fish bill has been canned along with the anti-Muskie language that was in it. We won on a technicality, but a win is a win. We thank everyone for their efforts, but we will be asking more in the months to come. This is an election cycle and we need to make those that are against solid science feel the might of our over 100,000 strong. More details to follow, in the meantime grab a beverage of your choice and hopefully we will enjoy a few new lakes." |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | Redlineracer12 - 5/23/2016 8:10 AM
This was from Twin Cities Muskies Inc this morning:
"This years game and fish bill has been canned along with the anti-Muskie language that was in it. We won on a technicality, but a win is a win. We thank everyone for their efforts, but we will be asking more in the months to come. This is an election cycle and we need to make those that are against solid science feel the might of our over 100,000 strong. More details to follow, in the meantime grab a beverage of your choice and hopefully we will enjoy a few new lakes." First, congrats on the win. As the post above suggests, this is no time to be complacent. The representatives who voted against science are sure to do it again. It's up to you to ensure they don't get to vote the next time around.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Perfect. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | details would be nice... sending a thank you to the reps or senators or whoever shot it down would be a great gesture by the musky community.. |
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Location: oswego, il | Agree with the above. Great job. I suggest bringing a goose call to all future lake association meetings as well. |
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| It is great news,,,
we need to get all the proposed new lakes stocked before they come up with another plot. |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | They basically ran out of time. The G&F went into conference committee in the Senate and they handed that over to Sen Hoffman and Sen Rudd. You may remember these two as the ones in the Senate that fought for the 55" minimum. With the limited amount of time to hear all the components of the G&F, they never got to the muskie language. Darn it...
We are going to need to show these two and several other legislators some love this year as everyone is up for election. Please contact me if you can help. I will probably send something out, but a short list of motivated people would be nice to start with. |
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| Given this has bought us some time, would love some direction on how we can all support what you're doing. Thanks again |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | tolle, we're going to have to get behind these legislators this summer during their campaigns. We are putting together a list of activites where people can help. Stay tuned. |
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Location: Lino Lakes, MN | Treats,
We all want to know how we can help out in this political arena. Thank go out to you, John, and all the others working on our behalf behind the scenes. Without the Minnesota Muskie and Pike Alliance we would all be in deep doo doo.
Keep up the great work
Steve |
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Location: Minneconia | So when do the muskies go in the 6 new lakes? This fall? |
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Location: Blaine, MN | Just thinking out loud here.... (And I know lake shore property owners don't control the resource).... BUT... Does the DNR just scratch Gull off of the list to appease that network and their resources? Maybe create an ally in the process? I realize how it would look, perhaps, as capitulating to the $$$, but initiating some give and take may look good?.?. Just interested in hearing from all opinions and looking at it from all angles as a discussion topic. Really not interested in bashing, or getting bashed.
Edited by short STRIKE 5/24/2016 5:00 PM
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| I don't think catering to the wishes of the anti's just to appease them is going to gain us any allies. There are a great many riparian land owners who are misinformed and generally against muskies in their lakes. Once you set that precedent and folks realize they can make a lot of noise and prevent muskies from being introduced, it opens the door for a lot more opposition. |
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| May have to copy and paste into browser. Not sure how to paste as a link.
http://www.startribune.com/attempt-to-stop-muskie-stocking-fizzles-...
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| How about slip 10 female muskies into every lake that has the criteria met so they would all be previously stocked? |
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Location: Minneconia | So how I read that is they still may not go through with the stocking on some or all of the proposed new lakes? |
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| Let's push for liizzy first
it already has them in and produced some big ones
It will help take pressure off those hard fished west central lakes
And most importantly ,,,,it will RAM it right down that weed and waterfowl killin ego maniac on pelicans throat.
"More satisfying then catching a 50"
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | After hearing that we won:
Brandon (10). So they are going to stock muskies now?
Me: Yes.
Brandon: Does the guys who were against you have docks on the lakes?
Me: Yes
Brandon: We should put them in there then.
I wonder where he gets it from...
Edited by Muskie Treats 5/26/2016 8:59 AM
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