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Location: Eagan, MN | What's the deal with WALLEYE fishermen??
While strapping my rig down after pulling out of Lake Vermilion this afternoon, a woman walks past our boat and sees the musky net.
"Catch any muskies?", she asks.
"Wish I had", I replied in a friendly way.
"Well, I wish you had too...and I wish you killed it and every other one you catch too", she said. I just said nothing as she walked on by, but sure thought of some choice things about her and all her button-pushing, uninformed, musky hating walleye buddies, too.
So, on more than one occasion, I've now had walleye anglers yelling at me on the lake to kill the musky I happen to be fighting (out of season, hooked while bass fishing), found out-of-season muskies with slit throats and bellies on the walleye opener, and rude comments like the woman tonight. Never have had any of this type of species warfare from bass or panfish or any other type of fishers. So, what's the deal with these WALLEYE fishermen?
Sorry for the rant, but had to get this off my chest. The species warfare being waged by the walleye community against the musky is very annoying!
Brian
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Uninformed people saying uniformed things. |
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| Crappie fishermen in my area. |
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| We too have dealt with it on vermilion and it does always seem to be in the fall,,actually a lot on the radio when talking to other buddies ,,they hear your musky people and they like to then chatter about how they killed muskie they caught earlier they do this to get a rise and they love to keep it going between their other walleye buddy boats.
One time,,,shouldn't of did it,,,not diplomatic,,not protocol, but couldnrt resist,,,I called another musky boat knowing the walleye guys were using same channel and asked,,
" hey do you guys have a big bobber I hooked a 16 inch eye and want to toss it out on the bobber while we eat lunch", they knew I wasn't serious but it still stired em up, but the chatter died down.
I think there's a group of local fall walleye people up there that just look to get a rise for amusement.
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Location: oswego, il | There is a resort owner I stayed at once on lake vermillion who feels the same way.
There is an article in an old esox angler magazine that would be worth making a copy of to hand out to people like this. I believe I sent a copy to that resort owner. Here in Illinois the imtt made a small pamphlet called what's on the menu to hand out and distribute to bass clubs and the like.
Don't be negative in these situations, be positive matter of fact and be ahead in the conversation.
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| uneducated people repeating uneducated opinions.....sad. |
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| That's the crappie guys on the lakes I fish...always the same thing, "Crappie fishing has gone to hell since they introduced musky". My first thought is always the same, no idiot, the crappie fishing has gone down hill because you sit on the same brush piles every day, taking 15 crappie home a day, and you've been doing it for the last 20 years....a musky's appetite has nothing on a crappie fisherman's appetite. |
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| I just tell people they eat the fish that eat walleyes when they hatch, and the crayfish that eat walleye eggs. Then when they complain about hot being able to catch their limit of whatever I say "look around this lake on a weekend. A musky eats one fish every 3 days. How many fish are these guys eating??"
Unless they get some sort of attitude about it, then I say "ever consider that it's YOU eating THEIR food and not the other way around?" Never goes over well...
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| On our lake it is the crappie fishermen. And as a previous poster noted, it comes from guys who evening after evening will sit on the same cribs until they have a limit and then after a few days wonder why there are not any crappies there. Must be the muskies. Two guys rented a cottage for a week and you could set your clock by them going out to the same two cribs. By the end of the week they were in the bar on the lake complaining about the lack of crappies. A couple of folks who were there told them off. They found out a number of folks had seen their routine and no one was offering them any sympathy. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The WIDNR is looking at addressing the panfish over-harvest on some of the lakes with new limits, good to see. I'd be happy with a 10 fish limit and a 10" size limit on crappies where big ones grow. |
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Location: New Hope MN | sworrall - 10/12/2015 9:50 AM
The WIDNR is looking at addressing the panfish over-harvest on some of the lakes with new limits, good to see. I'd be happy with a 10 fish limit and a 10" size limit on crappies where big ones grow.
I would love to see slot limits or size limits of some kind in MN. Especially come ice season... A few ponds here get massacred all winter long. It's scary how many crappies get harvested. |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | sworrall - 10/12/2015 9:50 AM
The WIDNR is looking at addressing the panfish over-harvest on some of the lakes with new limits, good to see. I'd be happy with a 10 fish limit and a 10" size limit on crappies where big ones grow.
Amen to that, and thanks to our local DNR fisheries guy it's in the works in my neck of the woods as well. Who the heck needs more than 10 crappies anyway ? |
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| I'm happy to know that the WIDNR is looking at the panfish limits. Size and amount.
But I wonder, really wonder, if those limits will really affect locals and property owners. In my experiences, those are the ones more likely to overharvest.
Not to be negative here and I certainly don't want to paintbrush all locals or property owners....but writing the regs are one thing. Enforcing them is a completely different story. |
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Location: Otsego, MN | The problem is not just muskies. Look at the smallmouth eating all the walleyes in Mille Lacs. These same uneducated people in previous years blamed the walleye decline on the muskies. I feel it's just going to be a never ending cycle. |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Pedro - 10/12/2015 11:06 AM
The problem is not just muskies. Look at the smallmouth eating all the walleyes in Mille Lacs. These same uneducated people in previous years blamed the walleye decline on the muskies. I feel it's just going to be a never ending cycle.
Well of course it's a never ending cycle. It takes a rare individual to admit they are the cause of something that is "negatively" impacting them or that after 20 years of fishing the same spot it might be time to find a new one. |
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Location: Minnesota | Your never going to change there minds .so have some fun with them. Last year fishing a lake all I got was a 27 inch walleye on a 9 inch suick took a picture and release it. When I got back to the landing there a guy ask me if I killed all the muskies I Cought told no but I release a 27 inch walleye with a slit in its gut.he asked why I would do somthing like that told him it was to big and it was eating all the musky fry. Needless to say he was peeed at me |
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| muskyhunter47 - 10/12/2015 11:53 AM
Your never going to change there minds .so have some fun with them. Last year fishing a lake all I got was a 27 inch walleye on a 9 inch suick took a picture and release it. When I got back to the landing there a guy ask me if I killed all the muskies I Cought told no but I release a 27 inch walleye with a slit in its gut.he asked why I would do somthing like that told him it was to big and it was eating all the musky fry. Needless to say he was peeed at me
Circle of life, ha! |
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Location: Alex or Alek? | muskyhunter47 - 10/12/2015 11:53 AM
Your never going to change there minds .so have some fun with them. Last year fishing a lake all I got was a 27 inch walleye on a 9 inch suick took a picture and release it. When I got back to the landing there a guy ask me if I killed all the muskies I Cought told no but I release a 27 inch walleye with a slit in its gut.he asked why I would do somthing like that told him it was to big and it was eating all the musky fry. Needless to say he was peeed at me
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, its funny how when you do anything to harm "their" fish they get peeed, but then tell you kill "our" fish. |
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Location: MN | Some of the walleyes guides on vermilion are musky haters as well.
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Location: Ohio | This doesn't just happen with muskies, walleyes, and crappies. Lots of opinionated, uneducated, biased fishermen out there. |
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Location: Watersmeet, Michigan | muskyhunter47 - 10/12/2015 11:53 AM
Your never going to change there minds .so have some fun with them. Last year fishing a lake all I got was a 27 inch walleye on a 9 inch suick took a picture and release it. When I got back to the landing there a guy ask me if I killed all the muskies I Cought told no but I release a 27 inch walleye with a slit in its gut.he asked why I would do somthing like that told him it was to big and it was eating all the musky fry. Needless to say he was peeed at me Think I've got you beat. How about this monster walleye I got on a magnum Hawg Wobbler? (We were laughing so hard that my partner had a hard time taking the picture.) Fr. K
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Location: Minnesota. | nick220722 - 10/12/2015 4:55 PM
This doesn't just happen with muskies, walleyes, and crappies. Lots of opinionated, uneducated, biased fishermen out there.
Yeah. I hate to see this sort of crud discussed and fought over, over and over again. It gets so tiring and everybody seems to "know" they're right.
Was over at my in-laws today. Wonderful people, mid 80's in age. They know how much I love musky fishing. When I heard how all the muskies have eaten the walleyes in Mille Lacs I just let it pass. It's not worth the feelings it would bring out. They "know" pike don't bite mid-summer cause of the "sore mouth" deally.
See what I mean... |
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Location: Minnesota | Pike with "sore mouth" I remember as a kid my dad would say that when we did not catching anything. |
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | muskyhunter47 - 10/12/2015 9:18 PM
Pike with "sore mouth" I remember as a kid my dad would say that when we did not catching anything.
Thats just another urban legend propagated by big pike fisherman to discourage anyone else from going after their fish - pike eat year round, find the prey, find the pike, catch the pike, "sore mouth"- bwwwaaaaaaaaa! I bet Sworrall catches them with pine cones!
Some folks just don't get the math......they've ruined their own fishery, via excessive harvest... I like this one they use to justify taking daily limits of their favorite fish - "I share them with family and friends". and this one - "Its terrible what those muskies have done, all we catch today are dinks!"
Have fun!
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Location: Yahara River Chain | ESOX Maniac - 10/12/2015 10:41 PM
muskyhunter47 - 10/12/2015 9:18 PM
Pike with "sore mouth" I remember as a kid my dad would say that when we did not catching anything.
Thats just another urban legend propagated by big pike fisherman to discourage anyone else from going after their fish - pike eat year round, find the prey, find the pike, catch the pike, "sore mouth"- bwwwaaaaaaaaa! I bet Sworrall catches them with pine cones!
Some folks just don't get the math......they've ruined their own fishery, via excessive harvest... I like this one they use to justify taking daily limits of their favorite fish - "I share them with family and friends". and this one - "Its terrible what those muskies have done, all we catch today are dinks!"
Have fun!
Al
You forgot the one "we use to be able to get a limit in the morning and one in the evening, now we cant because the muskies are eating them all", a guy actually said this at a public meeting about the crappies where they wanted the WDNR to stop stocking muskies in Lake Holcombe. The warden running the meeting was thinking about giving him a ticket for that admission. |
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Location: oswego, il | Discussed not quite a month ago the issue is the color of the lures we throw, change them away from the fish they catch and we are gold. |
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| Like I've said in the past if your a serious minnesota musky dude you really owe it to yourself to go to the next public input meeting when ever that is and hear the thoughts and theory of the haters.
Like one of the most prime time musky haters who would show up at most of these and introduce himself noting that the reason he got involved in conservation issues is because he mourned the loss of pheasants and pheasant habitat. Then went on later to rant that muskies had no business being stocked in lakes they are not native to.
Lets see,,,,,pheasants are not native to minnesota not even native to north America they are an introduced exotic species.
Now understand this,,,he was a lawyer by trade!!!!!
If he can make himself look stupid with his own tactics feel sorry for any clients he represented. |
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| truly funny. l.st clair has all species and lotsa musky . theres a specie for all to fish for. overharvest truly kills chances for trophies. |
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| I've heard that non-native argument before. I've found that saying "neither are WE, but they let us fish here anyway" usually puts things in perspective. |
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Location: Almond, WI | In my experience the conflict is with bass anglers in IL and walleye anglers in WI and MN. Most the walleye guys I knew in IL (including a couple really good tournament anglers) were 100% fine with muskies. |
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