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sworrall
Posted 11/16/2015 6:31 PM (#792738 - in reply to #792732)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.





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Further North - 11/16/2015 5:18 PM

Silly question: Why would people want tackle boxes on board if they could store all their tackle below deck?

I've been doing that for three seasons now and I wouldn't go back to a tackle box on a bet.

The few times I fish out of someone else's boat and have to use one I feel like I've slipped back to the stone age.


Gear and tackle box area on the floor is a selling point to multi-specie anglers, as is the area created that is cockpit, not elevated deck. Bass boat interiors generally have just enough cockpit for passengers and the driver. I ran a bass boat for a couple years back in my Skeeter days, and really didn't like the entire boat being high deck. I like to work on the fish at boat side, and prefer to do so from the cockpit.

It looks like, in the early stages of delivery of the new models, that orders are slightly higher for the bench seating and cool tackle storage, but the dealers ordered at least one of each.
sworrall
Posted 11/16/2015 6:58 PM (#792746 - in reply to #792452)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.





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Macintosh - 11/14/2015 6:09 AM

So, question for Steve or some of you guys who are more "in" with someone at Lund or a dealer, etc. Is Lund positioning this boat as a deep-hulled bass boat, or is it a multispecies boat with a casting-focused layout? Theres been a lot of discussion around this boat especially relative to the price-tag, as unless the Lund pricing tool on their website is off by 30% it seems like you'll be able to buy a fully rigged glass bassboat from numerous companies for similar money as this, so I wonder if people are simply assuming it's a straight-up bass boat (it does say "bass" on the sticker) yet it has a 25" transom and may be "more" than a straight-up bassboat--its kind of apples and oranges if that's true, but not sure to what degree...Seems there are really very few boats quite like this out there that combine a deeper hull with a bassboat-style layout. I ended up moving from a deep v boat into a glass bass boat because I couldnt find a boat like this--had I been able to have lund build me a custom boat a couple years ago it would essentially be this boat, it's uncanny how closely it resembles what I was looking for. Realistically I couldnt afford to have bought a new one anyway, but I literally couldnt even find ANYTHING similar to look at, so Ive never laid eyes on one, they simply dont exist in the market in anything resembling a significant way. Youve got the x-190 which seems actually to be a smaller boat given the width and which as a brand seems confined to the upper midwest; The 05 and 06 triton 21xd (no longer made) comes to mind, as does the new 22' ranger boat--but those are both much larger boats and they are glass. Im just wondering who Lund will end up targeting to buy this boat and for what. The tin bass boat guys seem to think this boat will be too expensive and will draw too much water and therefore wont be a good value and wont meet their needs, and in the southeast most assume rivets are inherently weak and that the vee-hull necessarily makes the boat "tippy"(lund has their work cut out for them if this is the target audience); the glass guys want glass in this price range; which leaves you with current tin deep-v customers who want a casting layout, which, based on available offerings seems a tiny niche. Is that a lot more people than I thought, or am I missing something? Im in sales in another industry, so it would be interesting to hear from someone with that perspective and more reality-based insight on this boat and what Lund thinks will make it tick.


It's a deep V Bass boat in one configuration and a 'Northern Edition' bass/multi species ride in the other. Suggested list is approximately $39.5K. The targeted audience is the bigger water angler to the guy who wants a bass interior and loves the Lund brand and the Pro V legacy.

The rod locker takes 9' rods. LOTS of storage. Big decks. Flip up rear seating. The strakes, running bottom design, and beam on the 1875 create a platform that isn't even close to 'tippy'. It's not going to draft much more water than a FRP 19' bass boat. I am pretty sure Lund is not targeting the southeast but will sell some there.

The 'glass guys' in the north where Lund sells the majority of their boats are outnumbered by the 'aluminum' fans by a considerable margin. Keep in mind, Lund offers a beauty of a glass boat too.

'Tin bass boats' have traditionally been flat bottomed or modified Vs. And, generally speaking, most are not even in the same neighborhood in the build of a Pro V. Those few regional brands that are, are very expensive, and are cult favorites in the south.

Sure, there are inexpensive FRP 19' boats. Go to Florida and price some regionally built bay boats. Not much margin in those, and if I wanted to buy a center console, that's where I'd get one.

Get into the upper class glass 19' bass boats and they ain't cheap.

The price point is absolutely Pro V, and they sell quite a few Pro V models. The boat will run really well with a 175 and surprisingly well with the 150 Merc 4 stroke.

What percentage do you think of that suggested list is the outboard/prop/rigging?

It is indeed a lot more folks that you thought, tempered by the fact it's not thousands in the first place for a new boat; people have a odd perception about numbers of boats each brand sells. It doesn't take thousands, or even 'hundreds' of a particular model to help the bottom line along.

And the 'muskie guys' have been complaining they wanted this design for several years. I'd love to own one, that's for sure.

Something else to consider, when Skeeter introduced the deep v line, they did so in the hopes of selling a 'reasonable' number, and getting their bass boats on the showroom floor up north. I was working for them during that time in '89 to '92.

It worked. Green Bay, the Fox Valley, and Milwaukee markets sell quite a few bass boats. Michigan is great, too, as is S MN.

We'll have the clip up this week.
Macintosh
Posted 11/16/2015 7:51 PM (#792761 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.




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Thank you very much, I appreciate the reply. Several of these threads have posts where people used the Lund pricing feature to build a moderately rigged boat and wound up in the mid 40's and up to over 50, so 39 is a lot more in line. I tried it and wound yp in the mid 40's without really loading it up. Im sure when these are available people will see prices a bit more in line, but even given that I was surprised.
And yes, I had a lund and it was a heck of a lot more stable than the mod-v bass boats those guys think are so stable, just offered it up for perspective. Im pretty sold on my glass boat now, but this boat looks great to me and I hope they do well with it.

Edited by Macintosh 11/16/2015 7:56 PM
sworrall
Posted 11/16/2015 8:00 PM (#792762 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
The boat business is interesting, to say the least!
Further North
Posted 11/16/2015 9:13 PM (#792771 - in reply to #792738)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.




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sworrall - 11/16/2015 6:31 PM

Further North - 11/16/2015 5:18 PM

Silly question: Why would people want tackle boxes on board if they could store all their tackle below deck?

I've been doing that for three seasons now and I wouldn't go back to a tackle box on a bet.

The few times I fish out of someone else's boat and have to use one I feel like I've slipped back to the stone age.


Gear and tackle box area on the floor is a selling point to multi-specie anglers, as is the area created that is cockpit, not elevated deck. Bass boat interiors generally have just enough cockpit for passengers and the driver. I ran a bass boat for a couple years back in my Skeeter days, and really didn't like the entire boat being high deck. I like to work on the fish at boat side, and prefer to do so from the cockpit.

It looks like, in the early stages of delivery of the new models, that orders are slightly higher for the bench seating and cool tackle storage, but the dealers ordered at least one of each.


I had a couple boats like that...having "stuff" on the floor that I had to constantly work around dove me nuts. On the boat, I like gear I'm not using put away and out of my way. Tackle boxes on deck were amongst the worst - always in my way.

I guess it's a preference thing.
sworrall
Posted 11/16/2015 10:53 PM (#792792 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.





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There's plenty of storage in that ride to put everything away. There's also more floor space.
smalljaw
Posted 11/17/2015 11:57 AM (#792834 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.




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Steve, any word on either a 17.5 or 20 foot version in the works?
sworrall
Posted 11/17/2015 12:09 PM (#792838 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.





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No sir.
Further North
Posted 11/17/2015 7:28 PM (#792914 - in reply to #792792)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.




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sworrall - 11/16/2015 10:53 PM

There's plenty of storage in that ride to put everything away. There's also more floor space.


You haven't seen all the tackle I carry...

The way I use my boat, I don't need...or want...floor space. It's just wasted space for me. I get why other people want it, that's cool...but I'd still take the bench seat version every time.
sworrall
Posted 11/17/2015 8:02 PM (#792927 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I'm sure that's why they built both styles.
Further North
Posted 11/17/2015 8:21 PM (#792936 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.




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Yep. Smart folks, those Lund-ians.
gmanny1
Posted 11/18/2015 7:40 PM (#793104 - in reply to #792436)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.




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Steve ,were all waiting on your video! Would you drop 45 K on that Lund 1875 or Go Tuffy ala glass? Price range on the 1760 Tuffy vs Lund 1875 Aluminum with a 150 Merc and a 9.9 kicker?
Thoughts and advice ?
Gman
muskyfishing89
Posted 11/21/2015 10:14 PM (#793529 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.




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I still like the Lund Predator better.
Macintosh
Posted 11/21/2015 10:39 PM (#793531 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.




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Why? Just wondering what in particular you like better about the predator.

Edited by Macintosh 11/21/2015 10:42 PM
gmanny1
Posted 11/22/2015 8:27 AM (#793543 - in reply to #793531)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.




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Steve,where's the video.We're all chompoing at the bit here???
sworrall
Posted 11/22/2015 10:48 AM (#793564 - in reply to #793543)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Here you go, click full screen for an expanded view:

Further North
Posted 11/22/2015 6:37 PM (#793644 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat, Video added




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Thanks.

I'll have to go look at them when one gets to the area.
danlaboucane
Posted 11/23/2015 7:52 AM (#793699 - in reply to #787354)
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wiredtofish as a new video about the boat this morning !
sworrall
Posted 11/23/2015 8:38 AM (#793705 - in reply to #793699)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat, Video added





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The Glorvigen's video, they picked the boat up a few minutes after we were there.

http://www.scout.com/outdoors/wired2fish/story/1613739-lund-release...
smalljaw
Posted 11/24/2015 10:30 AM (#793856 - in reply to #793564)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat.




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I'm sure the driver's seat is a fixed pedestal. How about the passenger seat, can that be moved to the front and/or rear casting deck(s)?

Edited by smalljaw 11/24/2015 12:18 PM
bob690
Posted 11/29/2015 11:27 AM (#794547 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: RE: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat, Video added




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I got to ask.Have they changed the material on the transom.Not trying to start something,but did'nt they change the material on the floor.So does mean there is no wood on top of deck or below the deck.Just asking.

bob690
sworrall
Posted 11/29/2015 11:44 AM (#794549 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat, Video added





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All aluminum flooring. Please look at all of the information offered here.

Some key specs include:

A total length of 18 feet, 9 inches
Rated for a maximum 200 HP. We hit a top end of 62mph with the Optimax and 59mph with the Verado. This was with one person in the boat, no gear, a 24-volt battery configuration, half-tank of fuel and at full trim with a 3-blade Mercury Tempest Plus Prop.
It has a wide 96 1/2-inch beam that, when coupled with the IPS 2 hull, is extremely stable
36 gallon fuel capacity
All-aluminum flooring
Available in a 24 or 36-volt battery configuration
Features a removable port console.
3-tier center rod locker that holds five 9-foot rods, five 8-foot, 8-inch rods and five 8-foot, 4-inch rods


I'll check on the transom tomorrow.
smalljaw
Posted 12/1/2015 7:33 AM (#794724 - in reply to #794547)
Subject: RE: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat, Video added




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bob690 - 11/29/2015 11:27 AM

I got to ask.Have they changed the material on the transom.Not trying to start something,but did'nt they change the material on the floor.So does mean there is no wood on top of deck or below the deck.Just asking.

bob690


Anecdotal, but it was reported on another forum that the transom is composite, or at least not wood...

Edited by smalljaw 12/1/2015 7:34 AM
sworrall
Posted 12/1/2015 2:32 PM (#794764 - in reply to #787354)
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Correct.
bob690
Posted 12/2/2015 7:40 PM (#794927 - in reply to #794724)
Subject: RE: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat, Video added




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smalljaw,what forum did you see this about the transom change.Thank you for answering my question.

bob690
Macintosh
Posted 12/3/2015 6:10 AM (#794965 - in reply to #787354)
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Maybe composite means something specific in this application, but as I understand the term it tells us nothing. Plywood is "composite". Anyone know what materials it is a composite OF?

Edited by Macintosh 12/3/2015 6:11 AM
sworrall
Posted 12/3/2015 8:46 AM (#794989 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat, Video added





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Check them out when you get to this Winter's shows or on your local Lund dealer's floor. You will like the transom in the new Bass model.
bob690
Posted 12/3/2015 9:28 AM (#795003 - in reply to #794989)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat, Video added




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Steve,our dealers in my area seldom order a boat unless someone orders one.But I'm really interested in this boat,also I have hard time buying a boat with out driving one.Thankyou for responding to my questions.


bob690
sworrall
Posted 12/3/2015 9:30 AM (#795004 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat, Video added





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
It's a kick fanny ride, that's for sure. Bigger than I need, but would love one in the driveway...I'd power it with a buck and a half.
smalljaw
Posted 12/3/2015 5:12 PM (#795073 - in reply to #787354)
Subject: Re: 2016 Lund 1875 Pro V Bass/Muskie Boat, Video added




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Steve, what's the ride like in rougher seas? On par with glass boats that size?
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