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ToddM
Posted 2/16/2011 10:13 AM (#482024 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state





Posts: 20219


Location: oswego, il
I do not believe that is what mike was getting at dan.
muskellunged
Posted 2/16/2011 10:30 AM (#482026 - in reply to #482018)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state





Location: Illinois

ManitouDan - 2/16/2011 9:45 AM muskellunged--with totally negative attitudes towards someone who would keep a state record fish it makes it hard for reasonable people to discuss anything. "THOSE" fisherman have every right to keep a record fish ---I guess you would slam 14 yr old Sarah from Ky since she kept Ky's new record fish 2 years ago ? She was fishing with a guide --you wish to slam "THOSE" fisherman also ? Ohhh the audacity of keeping a record fish -- I hope Ill's record gets broken numerous times !!!! !!!! !!!!! !!!! ! ! !

 

Manitou,

  I see how my post could have been misconstrued.  However, your assumptions about my feelings on harvesting legal fish could not be further from the truth.  The point of my post was actually:

sure would be nice to recognize catches that ultimately are released to be caught again.

Nothing wrong with keeping a legal fish, a record fish, or honoring those harvested record fish.  Sarah Terry is awesome and I'm a fan of her and those other Cave Run diehards as much as anybody! 

(playful)You seem a bit uptight this morning, have you had your coffee yet or what?

Mike

 ps- hope that "makes it easier for reasonable people to discuss anything"

 



Edited by muskellunged 2/16/2011 11:24 AM
Larry Ramsell
Posted 2/16/2011 11:30 AM (#482039 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state




Posts: 1291


Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
Kingfisher wrote: "Yes, this was the only list I was able to find. So far I am very surprised to find Muskies in Georgia and Alabama. I didnt think they were that far south. All of the Tiger waters were not listed. Im thinking the musky world is growing eh? Mike"

LR: At last count Mike, there are 42 states that have muskies or tiger muskies!! Now available to most.

Propster wrote: "What I found interesting was the records (if they are correct) for Ohio and Pennsylvania. Those are some big fish from states you wouldn't necessarily suspect would produce them that big."

LR: Yes, the Ohio and PA records are correct. Can't imagine why you think those states wouldn't produce giant muskies. They have the "right stuff" and have been producing big muskies for decades. PA produced a fish over 50 pounds not too many years ago...and it was released! Last giant from Ohio was 47 1/2 pounds, but it was several years ago. And let's not forget Lake Erie which borders both states...
ManitouDan
Posted 2/16/2011 11:42 AM (#482042 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state




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no problem Mike -- I can be a bit high strung . Dan
chasintails
Posted 2/16/2011 11:56 AM (#482044 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state




Posts: 457


I personally would like to see the illinois record held by someone actually fishing for muskies.
Although I'm sure many of the records are held by people fishing for other species.
Didn't I see something about the Michigan record being broken last fall on torch lake?
Any one fish Winnibigosh?
muskellunged
Posted 2/16/2011 12:48 PM (#482055 - in reply to #482042)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state





Location: Illinois

No problem Danno I can be the exact same way at times except minus the strung part!

 

Illinois has had how many lakes hold musky records going back to 1990? 5?  Otter, Shelbyville, Shabbona, any others that anyone knows of?  I'm sort of surprised Kinkaid doesn't have a record Illinois musky.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but Chad Cain caught one last year that was a few ounces shy? She was released and I also believe she'd have been released if she were a legitimate record.

It's ironic how it's taboo for an elite guide to keep a record.  Nevertheless I get it.  I just think we should find a better way to honor the release records for each state-

for instance, maybe Spencer Berman caught a State Record a few years back in Indiana, released it, but doesn't get the same amount of credit as if he whacked it.  It isn't like he can claim it on his official resume, and that's a shame.  Perhaps states should hire some photo police(forget the tech. term) and review applications for release records. Also purchase on the water scales for the 3 most likely lakes?   2 non-partial witnesses on a certified scale, released, reviewed and verified.

Not disparaging the harvested records, just trying to get the CPR folk recognized on the same level.  They too, deserve honoring! 

Personally, and by no means am I forcing this opinion on anyone, I have no problem with bonking a world record.  State record, eh- is it worth contradicting my ethics?  Nope, not to me! I'd be upset but okay with it if a record fish wouldn't go (of course only after using my home-made muskellunge defibrillator and a full on session of mouth to mouth)

 

State release records should get their just publicity and recognition in my humble opinion.

Mike Witowski

Proprietor

www.muskydeFIBrillator.com

 



Edited by muskellunged 2/16/2011 1:07 PM
Wisconsin Wade
Posted 2/16/2011 1:03 PM (#482058 - in reply to #482055)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state




Posts: 194


Location: Lincolnshire, IL
Hakuna Matata!

Edited by Wisconsin Wade 2/16/2011 1:17 PM
Sam Ubl
Posted 2/16/2011 1:09 PM (#482059 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state





Location: SE Wisconsin
Remember these are "just fish" we are talking about. It becomes all too redundant to re-read negative commentary about keeping a fish and spawns no worthwhile additions to discussion. A lot of times I read something that's meaningful to me, the itch to reply is there but ya see, I got this here turkey foot back scratcher and it cures the itch..

Chad Cain, didn't you pull a 40+ pounder out of Kinkaid in SW, Ill, last spring?

Edited by Sam Ubl 2/16/2011 1:11 PM
muskellunged
Posted 2/16/2011 1:11 PM (#482060 - in reply to #482058)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state





Location: Illinois

Actually Wade I'm just brainstorming and shooting from the hip.  I understand states can't afford such a venture, but perhaps there's private money, or fundraising that could occur to make such a dream possible. 

 



Edited by muskellunged 2/16/2011 1:13 PM
muskellunged
Posted 2/16/2011 1:17 PM (#482062 - in reply to #482059)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state





Location: Illinois

Sam Ubl - 2/16/2011 1:09 PM Remember these are "just fish" we are talking about.

Surely understood.  But here in the General Discussion forum of MuskiesFirst in the month of February people are starting to get the stir crazy from all this cabin fever, at least I am!  Just having a reasonable discussion- feel free to respond to the other ideas/discussion within this thread if you are tired of my whine....

Mike

ps Interesting thread IMHO thanks Kingfisher



Edited by muskellunged 2/16/2011 1:20 PM
Pointerpride102
Posted 2/16/2011 2:02 PM (#482066 - in reply to #482055)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
muskellunged - 2/16/2011 12:48 PM

No problem Danno I can be the exact same way at times except minus the strung part!



Which is evident by your football and baseball predictions.
RiverMan
Posted 2/16/2011 3:17 PM (#482076 - in reply to #481958)
Subject: RE: State record fish by state




Posts: 1504


Location: Oregon
Top H2O - 2/15/2011 8:44 PM
I don't see Utah, Washington,Colorado, Montana, New Mexico, ect ect,...Ya know Tiger Muskie Water.
Isn't a Tiger still a muskie?
Give me a 48" Tiger over a 54" pure breed any day !


There aren't any big musky in Washington.


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fins355
Posted 2/16/2011 4:03 PM (#482082 - in reply to #481898)
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Lake Summerset past hybrid record.

"state-record tiger to Chicago angler Rob McDermott. McDermott's fish was 47 1/2 inches long, tipping the scales at 29.56 pounds."

I've got a pic but don't know how to post............got it!!



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hawkeye9
Posted 2/16/2011 8:28 PM (#482124 - in reply to #482082)
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Posts: 426


Location: Perryville, MO
Chad's Kinkaid fish was 37.4#s and 1/8" short of fifty.
Muskie_Guy
Posted 2/16/2011 8:34 PM (#482127 - in reply to #482124)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state


I spent about a month researching this and put the pics with the state records on my website... some of the info you'll find on the internet is out dated

http://muskie_guy.tripod.com/cgi-bin/staterecord.html
MuskyMATT7
Posted 2/16/2011 9:05 PM (#482134 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state





Posts: 553


Location: 15 miles east of Lake Kinkaid
It is difficult to believe the Illinois record is under 40lbs. I know they have netted pre-spawn females heavier than the current state record on Lake Evergreen, and I am 99.99% Shelbyville and Kinkaid have multiple fish that would break the 40lb mark. Someone just has to catch one of these fish in early March. For me, the possibility of breaking the state record adds to the "lure" of spring fishing. Maybe this will be the year!!
ILGreenhead
Posted 2/16/2011 9:54 PM (#482139 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state




Posts: 122


Location: North Central Illinois
I hope it's me this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 40 lber here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!
potomacmuskieman
Posted 2/16/2011 10:01 PM (#482141 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: RE: State record fish by state


Maryland 29 lbs 4.75 oz Potomac River - dam #5 Kevin Conner 2/14/1997 has been broken a bunch of times but no wants to go through all the hastles of claiming a state record.
Top H2O
Posted 2/16/2011 10:24 PM (#482144 - in reply to #482141)
Subject: RE: State record fish by state




Posts: 4080


Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
Riverman,
Now that's what I'm talking about !........ Perrrtty !
Kingfisher
Posted 2/17/2011 12:52 AM (#482152 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: RE: State record fish by state




Posts: 1106


Location: Muskegon Michigan
Maryland? wow, Thanks larry 42 states? Good God man what states dont have them?

For the guys who want a way to weigh Muskies just look at what the MOMC club has been doing on Lake St. Clair. Private money buys the saclse and they can weigh any fish caught on St. Clair. The use of the new fish tanks make it very easy to get them to and from the scales and back into lake unharmed. These tanks are padded and can be carried from the boat to a cart or right to scale on a dock. Mike
NCmusky
Posted 2/17/2011 9:21 AM (#482181 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state




Posts: 81


I thinks its interesting that PA doesn't recognize a state record tiger musky, even though they have some very large specimens!
http://www.fish.state.pa.us/images/be/splashes/2005/arch_spring.htm

In NC, we could have used a scale like that a few years ago when my friend caught a 50.25x26.5 that should have broke the state record. We couldn't find a certified scale large enough and 2.5 hours later it weighed 41lbs! He said it weighed 43lb 10oz on his hand held scale right after he caught it!
TWINFIN5
Posted 2/17/2011 10:25 AM (#482204 - in reply to #481898)
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Here is an Illinois 40#er


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Larry Ramsell
Posted 2/17/2011 10:35 AM (#482205 - in reply to #481898)
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Posts: 1291


Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
Mike: 42 is not my count, but to my knowledge there are no muskies or hybrid muskies in Arizona; Hawaii; California; Oregon; Alaska; Nevada; Kansas and Florida. Not sure about a few others. 32 states have active programs.

Edited by Larry Ramsell 2/17/2011 10:36 AM
PAfisherman
Posted 2/17/2011 10:56 AM (#482212 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: RE: State record fish by state


LR..."PA produced a fish over 50 lbs. not too many years ago...and it was released?"

How was the weight of over 50 lbs. determined?
Tim Schmitz
Posted 2/17/2011 10:56 AM (#482213 - in reply to #482204)
Subject: RE: State record fish by state




Posts: 540


Location: MN
TWINFIN5 - 2/17/2011 10:25 AM

Here is an Illinois 40#er


No it's not
cottonwood
Posted 2/17/2011 11:01 AM (#482215 - in reply to #482204)
Subject: RE: State record fish by state




Posts: 23


Location: Indiana
TWINFIN5 - 2/17/2011 10:25 AM

Here is an Illinois 30#er
Larry Ramsell
Posted 2/17/2011 11:21 AM (#482220 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state




Posts: 1291


Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
PAfisherman, it was weighed on a Chatillion scale at 52 pounds prior to release. It was caught by Howard Wagner.

Here is a quote from an article: "Four years ago, he caught a 55-incher near Buffalo Harbor on Lake Erie's New York side, and five years ago landed a 52-pounder in the middle Allegheny River, wading on a January day."

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07189/799935-358.stm#ixzz1EEqBWBH9


Edited by Larry Ramsell 2/17/2011 11:33 AM
PAmusky
Posted 2/17/2011 11:25 AM (#482224 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: Re: State record fish by state




Posts: 17


Location: NW PA/Allegheny River
Here is the fish that Larry just spoke of.........Be sure to read the entire story.

http://www.fish.state.pa.us/pafish/musky/ab_articles/2003nov_dec/00...

Edited by PAmusky 2/17/2011 11:27 AM
PAfisherman
Posted 2/17/2011 11:28 AM (#482225 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: RE: State record fish by state


Do any photos exist of this released 52 lber.?
PAfisherman
Posted 2/17/2011 11:43 AM (#482228 - in reply to #481898)
Subject: RE: State record fish by state


Nice fish!
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