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Musky_Mo16
Posted 4/26/2017 10:11 PM (#859745)
Subject: Surf rods for muskie?




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Well kind of, anybody ever have a surf rod customized into a muskie rod. I know at least one person who did this on this forum but I'm interested to hear if anyone else tried it or has any thoughts. I was thinking a about maybe a 12ft MH st croix avid surf cut down to 10'6" and customized like a ski rod.
Tackle Industries
Posted 4/27/2017 3:50 PM (#859824 - in reply to #859745)
Subject: Re: Surf rods for muskie?





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Location: Land of the Musky
Funny.... Reason I say this is that we are taking a few Tackle Industries Musky rods and turning them into Vexan Inshore/surf rods
Chain Gang
Posted 4/27/2017 3:52 PM (#859825 - in reply to #859745)
Subject: Re: Surf rods for muskie?




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I know a guy that has a custom made jawbreaker that is a surf rod blank. He loves it, but I think it's too heavy
Rotorhead
Posted 4/27/2017 5:22 PM (#859838 - in reply to #859745)
Subject: RE: Surf rods for muskie?




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Location: West Central WI
I moved to WI after my years in the Navy and brought two surf rods that I had used for years from shore and piers to catch blue fish, shark, and even a 135 lb ray. Both are spinning rods - one 10' one 12'. Virtually all surf rods are spinning rods. They seemed long at the time, but maybe not so much anymore since muskie rods are getting longer. Both are rigged with Penn reels and 30 lb test. I used the 12' one in my rod holder which got the bait a nice distance out to the side. They cast a mile. They also work great catching catfish from shore on the lake where I live. With all the great rods and bait casting reels out there, I just leave my surf rods hanging in the garage. Other than the desire to convert a surf rod to a muskie rod, you'd need to think through a specific reason or advantage there would be to doing this. There may be one but I don't know what it would be after using both rods in my earlier muskie fishing days.
esoxaddict
Posted 4/27/2017 5:36 PM (#859841 - in reply to #859838)
Subject: Re: Surf rods for muskie?





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I think surf rods are best left to their original purpose. You might be better served to look at a mudhole catalog and pick your blank, guides, reel seat/etc. and have someone build you a custom rod.
Musky_Mo16
Posted 4/27/2017 6:42 PM (#859848 - in reply to #859841)
Subject: Re: Surf rods for muskie?




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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't
Is there really much of a difference between a surf rod and a ski rod?
Tommis
Posted 4/27/2017 7:16 PM (#859855 - in reply to #859848)
Subject: Re: Surf rods for muskie?





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Location: Southwest PA
Musky_Mo16 - 4/27/2017 7:42 PM

Is there really much of a difference between a surf rod and a ski rod?


Between two to six inches in average.
Tackle Industries
Posted 4/27/2017 7:58 PM (#859866 - in reply to #859855)
Subject: Re: Surf rods for muskie?





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Location: Land of the Musky
Tommis - 4/27/2017 7:16 PM

Musky_Mo16 - 4/27/2017 7:42 PM

Is there really much of a difference between a surf rod and a ski rod?


Between two to six inches in average.


Thats what she said...
Musky_Mo16
Posted 4/27/2017 8:06 PM (#859867 - in reply to #859855)
Subject: Re: Surf rods for muskie?




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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't
Tommis - 4/27/2017 7:16 PM

Musky_Mo16 - 4/27/2017 7:42 PM

Is there really much of a difference between a surf rod and a ski rod?


Between two to six inches in average.


I'm talking more in blank material and construction. I feel it would be easier to just cut a few inches off a surf rod than extend a rod. I know I could probaly find a longer blank but if I get a surf casting blank I will be able to get a st.croix one. I know it sounds dumb but I would really like to keep all my stuff from them because I've had nothing but great experiences. And about a surf rod being heavier, the st croix avid surf 11' is actually a once or 2 lighter than the 9' premier (I use premiers exclusively so that's my weight scale)
Tommis
Posted 4/27/2017 8:56 PM (#859887 - in reply to #859866)
Subject: Re: Surf rods for muskie?





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Location: Southwest PA
Tackle Industries - 4/27/2017 8:58 PM

Tommis - 4/27/2017 7:16 PM

Musky_Mo16 - 4/27/2017 7:42 PM

Is there really much of a difference between a surf rod and a ski rod?


Between two to six inches in average.


Thats what she said...


I was waiting for that... well played sir!
MartinTD
Posted 4/28/2017 6:56 AM (#859912 - in reply to #859745)
Subject: Re: Surf rods for muskie?





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Location: NorthCentral WI
MuskyMo16,
First, go catch a muskie with the gear you have. After that, catch a few more. Fish 2-3 lakes in your home range and learn those well. There is no substitute for time on the water. Buying more rods, reels, and lures is not going to help you catch more fish. As the proverb goes, "A fool and his money are soon parted." Saying "I use premiers exclusively..." sounds really dumb considering you've never even caught a muskie. To each their own but my god, just go fishing. The threads these days... *%#$!
ToddM
Posted 4/28/2017 7:12 AM (#859918 - in reply to #859745)
Subject: Re: Surf rods for muskie?





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Location: oswego, il
Are you looking to make it yourself or have it made? Doing it yourself can be a fun hobby. Having it converted or built by a custom rod builder will be more expensive than alot of musky rods on the market.
Asandir
Posted 4/28/2017 10:56 AM (#859937 - in reply to #859745)
Subject: Re: Surf rods for muskie?




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Location: Becker MN
I made a 10' surf rod for muskies, I used an MHX blank for it. I made it strictly for a trolling rod as most surf rods have a softer feel to them as opposed to muskie blanks. The blank itself is also heavier than a St. Croix muskie rod. For the purpose I made it I love it!! It is 2 pieces and can fit is storage easy, and gets out from teh boat great. I am thinking of a couple more for this reason, and maybe a 12' for this reason.

To make one for casting might work, but they have a softer action by design to give surf fishermen more casting distance. This is good for casting, but not so good in a figure 8 situation.

Best bet would be to extend a rod for length for casting, for trolling the rods work great!
Musky_Mo16
Posted 4/28/2017 11:56 AM (#859942 - in reply to #859937)
Subject: Re: Surf rods for muskie?




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Asandir - 4/28/2017 10:56 AM

I made a 10' surf rod for muskies, I used an MHX blank for it. I made it strictly for a trolling rod as most surf rods have a softer feel to them as opposed to muskie blanks. The blank itself is also heavier than a St. Croix muskie rod. For the purpose I made it I love it!! It is 2 pieces and can fit is storage easy, and gets out from teh boat great. I am thinking of a couple more for this reason, and maybe a 12' for this reason.

To make one for casting might work, but they have a softer action by design to give surf fishermen more casting distance. This is good for casting, but not so good in a figure 8 situation.

Best bet would be to extend a rod for length for casting, for trolling the rods work great!


Thanks, that's what I was unsure about. Even though the rod is a MHF I wasn't sure if it was still softer. Anybody know how long of a rod Thorne could build? I'll email them later too.
bigrackhunter
Posted 4/28/2017 10:34 PM (#859999 - in reply to #859745)
Subject: Re: Surf rods for muskie?





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Location: lawton, ok
Some surf rods can serve as good trolling rods.
Cedar
Posted 4/29/2017 2:14 AM (#860007 - in reply to #859745)
Subject: RE: Surf rods for muskie?




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Location: Western U.P.
The St Croix Legend Surf blanks are probably my favorite blank to build into a Musky rod. I currently have 2, and liked them so much, that I picked up 3 more blanks to make up for myself. They're light weight, strong, and capable of long casts with a good reel. Surf rods in general tend to have a more moderate action (parabolic bend) that allows them to load deep. The St Croix Avid Surf blanks make nice Musky rods also, but are a little heavier than Legend Surfs. I do like that red though, and may have to build one for myself some day. PM me if you have any questions.
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