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| Hey guys wanted some of your opinions on casting with big large plastics and suck...For instance say your throwing a pounder what are your thoughts on wear and tear on rods as far as casting position...Better to throw sideways across the body or over the top like over your head throw? one better than the other for wear and tear on rod and reel?
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| I'm more concerned on the wear and tear on my shoulders & wrists and hands than I am with wear & tear on the tackle. That being said I would go with overhead as rather than a sidearm cast |
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| I know for sure that a cast that doesn't overload the blank is best. By that I mean more of a lob cast than a whip cast like trying to throw a bucktail into the wind where you really need to generate a lot of speed on your cast to get the bait to go a long ways. Pounders etc. are heavy enough to go a long ways without trying to whip them out there. Along the same lines, a longer rod will generate more distance on a cast than a short rod. I personally use a 10'6" xxh TI for throwing pounders and big baits, actually for dang near everything but jerkbaits. I most often go over the top or 3/4 when casting big baits. It kind of depends on where I am in the boat and how many people are in the boat. I will even roll cast them when I want a very accurate cast to a particular piece of cover or pocket in the cover I am fishing. I have built rods for about 15 years now and have yet to really see any particular method of casting wear out or ruin a blank other than trying to throw too heavy of a bait too hard where the tip section overloads and breaks. Long-winded response...haha! |
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Location: Smith Creek | musky513 - 12/20/2016 10:32 AM
I will even roll cast them when I want a very accurate cast to a particular piece of cover or pocket in the cover I am fishing. I have built rods for about 15 years now and have yet to really see any particular method of casting wear out or ruin a blank other than trying to throw too heavy of a bait too hard where the tip section overloads and breaks. Long-winded response...haha!
You roll cast pounders? Please post a video of that! |
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| ill one up it and roll cast a 2 lber lol. |
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| St. Croix makes that pretty easy for me: Throw a Big Dawg, use the "Big Dawg" rod. Sling a blade, use the "Sling Blade" rod. Good thing, I don't have to give this a lot of thought at my age! Best of Holidays to you all!!! |
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| Flambeuski- yeah it's a cast I used a lot when I fished bass. I guess I don't really think of it as unusual, just make the cast that fits the situation... not a long cast obviously, but accurate. |
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| I go with Junkman, the rod is the key. Pounders are XXH rod. MTO, 9'0 throws with ease. |
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| Cast with both elbows tucked to the rib cage. Best advice I ever got. |
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Location: mercer wi | I use a st croix 8'6" xh. I started leaving about a foot or two between rod tip and leader. Nice and slow goin back and forward. Is like a trebuchet. This has taken alot of stress of rod and body imo. Little practice and it works great. I also use about 20" leaders that I make |
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Location: Almond, WI | Upnorthdave has it down. You kinda pendulum the bait. I use 18" leaders and a St Croix Big Dawg. |
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| I just recieved my biggest Rod to Date an 8'7" XXH 4-12 oz 13 fishing omen musky really like the feel of this Rod and Lexa400HS-P to mount on it...bought to throw pounders and other big baits...cant wait to test this weekend |
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| CPR - 12/20/2016 11:25 PM Cast with both elbows tucked to the rib cage. Best advice I ever got. Bingo! Much easier on your shoulders. |
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| Two more things:
1. I'm with the "elbows in" thing, I came to it by way of injured shoulders, and stayed because of golf. The golf swing is much more a "body turn" than an "arm swing," at least if you do it right. It's a winding and un-winding of the big muscles. Like the others above, I find those muscles will get your pounder out there just fine.
2. And, while I inserted a small commercial above, I'm convinced fishing is all about the "ROD." Sure, I've got a lot to say about the perfect marriage of Ranger/Verado, trolling motors, even the most hated subject of all--the best reel for double tens. But, I really believe NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR ROD! (Now, stay out of the gutter here..) Everyone has a rod they think is the best, and I'm not saying there aren't a lot of good rods out there. There are! But, you simply are better off skimping and saving on just about anything else you do, a smaller boat or motor, used reel or whatever. Just don't skimp here, don't buy somebody's bargain closeout, cheap knock-off copy, or something in front of the bait shop door they will throw away if someone doesn't buy it soon. I really think that of all the things I've ever said, "Buy the best rod you can afford" is the one you can take to the bank. |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Casting will be easier if you are casting over your shoulder, it's simply the mechanics of your body that make this the least stressful method. I'm going to take a different angle on this than musky513, though I think what he was getting at was that you don't want to incorrectly load the rod and essentially "high stick" it on a snap cast. When casting big plastics you want to completely load the rod, if you've ever cast a big fly with heavy fly line you'll understand what you have to do to make it easy to cast big baits. A long rod (8.5-9') can't do it's job of making casts easier if you don't let it do it's job. Probably the most important thing that I teach people every year is to leave some line out, not just an inch or two above the leader but 2-3 feet (as noted by upnortdave). When casting big baits this will improve your efficiency, rod efficiency and really forces you to cast correctly. An added bonus is that casting this way will nearly eliminate backlashes.
Edited by Will Schultz 12/22/2016 12:40 PM
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| And I'd like to see this,,a heavy plastic rod a lot of times means late season too it doesn't have to be a thing of beauty, 9 1/2 to 10 ft with half has many guides has usual but the guides are three times bigger then normal to combat ice up,,your just lobbing these things out there anyways combine it with a jig ripper handle that will keep one of your hands down and away from the cold wet spraying line,,somebody make me this one  |
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