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Message Subject: Phantom issues.
bbeaupre
Posted 11/23/2015 9:46 AM (#793720)
Subject: Phantom issues.




Posts: 390


So I have used phantom lures for years with great success, however the last two 7.5 softails I purchased have no glide whatsoever. The first one I just wrote off as a fluke until 2 weeks later I purchased another from a different store and in a different color pattern and had the same result. Have any of you experienced this? I would like to replace the a few old ones I have and am wondering if I should wait to see if this is a large scale issue.
rodbender
Posted 11/23/2015 9:50 AM (#793722 - in reply to #793720)
Subject: Re: Phantom issues.





Location: varies
Phantoms glide? Hmm, honestly did not know that.
muskie tamer
Posted 11/23/2015 11:05 AM (#793738 - in reply to #793720)
Subject: Re: Phantom issues.





Posts: 411


Location: Waconia,MN
Phantoms are more of a side to side jerkbait than a glider.
Skinny
Posted 11/23/2015 11:11 AM (#793740 - in reply to #793720)
Subject: Re: Phantom issues.




Posts: 12


Muskie Tamer- Can you help me understand the difference between side to side jerkbait and a glider.....sorry for the ignorant question.
Fishysam
Posted 11/23/2015 1:12 PM (#793754 - in reply to #793720)
Subject: Re: Phantom issues.




Posts: 1209


I have noticed that I absolutely hate some leaders that I now have for these types of baits. It took me a while to realize that, and boy wAs I happy when I figured it out. Double check your leader if you have changed anything lately. If you change to a different phantom that works correctly idk what to tell you, but for me it was all leader. Now I have a new rod and reel for the different leaders in my box.... Efffff
Slamr
Posted 11/23/2015 2:33 PM (#793760 - in reply to #793720)
Subject: Re: Phantom issues.





Posts: 7010


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Have you reached out to the manufacturer yet?
horsehunter
Posted 11/23/2015 2:33 PM (#793761 - in reply to #793720)
Subject: Re: Phantom issues.




Location: Eastern Ontario
I had a 6 inch reef hawg that I named the dog turd ( sort of brown yellow and white ) . The lure had absolutely no built in action and was almost impossible to impart any action, the fish loved it although I could never figure out why.
bbeaupre
Posted 11/23/2015 4:12 PM (#793770 - in reply to #793720)
Subject: RE: Phantom issues.




Posts: 390


I will contact phantom, thanks
muskyroller
Posted 11/23/2015 5:16 PM (#793777 - in reply to #793720)
Subject: Re: Phantom issues.




Posts: 1039


Location: North St. Paul, MN
I am a huge phantom fan. I have several 6" softails. I've tried the 7.5" softail with limited succes. One thing I've "tinkered" with just recently, was this: lighter gage, single strand leader. I went to 150lb (or so) and made my own. Reducing the hardware and lightening up on the wire really has them swinging even more than before.

Try that with the 7.5"? Good luck.
tbaatz
Posted 11/24/2015 8:54 AM (#793853 - in reply to #793720)
Subject: Re: Phantom issues.





Posts: 140


Location: Scandia MN
Same problem - tried all of the above with many older lures verses the newer models - The newer ones either required much tweaking or just flat would not work - Hoping the maker's get this message and fix whatever the problem is - As an older guy I use these a lot and have a ever growing pile of defective units - Really like them and it's a to bad the quality control has become an issue.
pklingen
Posted 11/24/2015 2:54 PM (#793877 - in reply to #793720)
Subject: Re: Phantom issues.




Posts: 860


Location: NE Ohio
i bought three 7 1/2" softails from thorne bros. last spring and they work just fine on a 174# single strand wire leader and 6-9 jerk rod. one even has a threaded hole in the bottom to add extra weight if i'd want to.
Sidejack
Posted 11/24/2015 9:18 PM (#793928 - in reply to #793720)
Subject: RE: Phantom issues.





Posts: 1080


Location: Aurora
90% of mine are wood but all of them seem to work, even on a straight retrieve they walk a little. Did you try straight reeling it back to the boat?
RyanJoz
Posted 11/25/2015 8:38 PM (#794040 - in reply to #793720)
Subject: Re: Phantom issues.




Posts: 1677


Location: Mt. Zion, IL
I have a new one that won't glide as well. It was a show custom so I am out of luck for replacement. One from a few years ago works great and has had many sets of hooks cut on it. The new one just "humps" back to the boat.
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