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[QUOTE]SLE - 5/7/2014  9:31 AM

I see a lot of previous discussion talking about trucks anywhere from 2000' to 2010' models. Comparing a 2010 model to a 2014 or 2015 really isn't a comparison. I don't' have any strong feelings about the tundra other than the truck, chassis, and drivetrain are largely the same as when they debuted more than a 1/2 dozen years ago. This years refresh only freshened up the interior and added some gadgetry that the other makers had already incorporated and Toyota was lacking. Their V8 is a strong runner even today however it's fallen behind in terms of fuel economy and there trans simply doesn't compare to those of the new trucks from the other makers. I believe they are very reliable and they should be as they haven't pushed any envelopes and are essentially running 2006 technology.  To me, if I'm paying for new, give me something new, Give me something innovative, not something that's already long in the tooth. This is also my problem with the GM redesign. It was a very conservative approach that only got them close to what Dodge and Ford are already doing. This puts them in constant catch up mode. The real question is do you want to be a leader or a follower. The sales numbers are telling that story and what current buyers are looking for. The GM twins have struggled since their debut, the Tundra has never really became a contender, Ram is seeing sales increases every month in leaps an bounds, and ford continues to march on with solid sales and monthly increases for the most part. Frankly, I look for Fords numbers to go a little stagnate until the 2015s hit the lots unless the start laying a boat load of cash on the hoods. with that said I expect dodge will continue to march forward increasing sales, the GM will continue to struggle with out additional incentive packages, and the Tundra will continue as many of there buyers are not cross shopping and know what there buying before they head to the lot. I could be totally off, however this has been my observation of the truck market which I've watched pretty close over the past few years.[/QUOTE]

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Posted 5/7/2014 9:31 AM (#710473 - in reply to #703274)
Subject: Re: ecoboost towing

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I see a lot of previous discussion talking about trucks anywhere from 2000' to 2010' models. Comparing a 2010 model to a 2014 or 2015 really isn't a comparison. I don't' have any strong feelings about the tundra other than the truck, chassis, and drivetrain are largely the same as when they debuted more than a 1/2 dozen years ago. This years refresh only freshened up the interior and added some gadgetry that the other makers had already incorporated and Toyota was lacking. Their V8 is a strong runner even today however it's fallen behind in terms of fuel economy and there trans simply doesn't compare to those of the new trucks from the other makers. I believe they are very reliable and they should be as they haven't pushed any envelopes and are essentially running 2006 technology. To me, if I'm paying for new, give me something new, Give me something innovative, not something that's already long in the tooth. This is also my problem with the GM redesign. It was a very conservative approach that only got them close to what Dodge and Ford are already doing. This puts them in constant catch up mode. The real question is do you want to be a leader or a follower. The sales numbers are telling that story and what current buyers are looking for. The GM twins have struggled since their debut, the Tundra has never really became a contender, Ram is seeing sales increases every month in leaps an bounds, and ford continues to march on with solid sales and monthly increases for the most part. Frankly, I look for Fords numbers to go a little stagnate until the 2015s hit the lots unless the start laying a boat load of cash on the hoods. with that said I expect dodge will continue to march forward increasing sales, the GM will continue to struggle with out additional incentive packages, and the Tundra will continue as many of there buyers are not cross shopping and know what there buying before they head to the lot. I could be totally off, however this has been my observation of the truck market which I've watched pretty close over the past few years.