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[QUOTE]SLE - 4/10/2014  8:05 AM

Since this discussion is about Ecoboost's and towing, outside of our F250 Diesels, the little Twin turbo Ecoboost bar non tows the best with the GM 6.2 not terribly far behind. Anybody that thinks a 5.3 GM is in the same class as the Ecoboost is clueless. The big difference between the little 3.5 and the 6.2 is the 6.2 simply needs more RPM. That low RPM torque on the 3.5 is undeniable when towing and makes for a fantastic driving experience. 2nd thing is mileage, the Ecoboost varies greatly. All of our Ecoboost trucks are 3.73:1 geared and mileage ranges from a low of 9-10 towing heavy to 25 mpg at 55 mph with no adverse weather. On average the guys see 17-20mpg on the highway, 13-17mpg around town, 10-13mpg towing. Some expected better and complain a little about the mileage but none of the other trucks in the fleet are any better, everyone just expects better due to the advertising. The 6.0 GM and a the 5.4s seem to be the worst for Fuel milage without at doubt. Only 1 of the 5 ecoboost trucks have been in for service, neither of the 5.0 trucks have had any issues, we have Both a 6.2 and few 5.3s that have been in for various items. At this point I can't say one is any more reliable than the other. What I do know is put a truck in the fleet and you'd be amaze at what they manage to break! and that's on all of them. Our guys have open options to buy what they want and what works best for them so long as it's a full size SUV or Crew Cab truck. From 2000-2009 I would say we purchased 1 ford for every 3 GMs. In 09' we picked up a new F150 which became a turning table for our fleet. Since that 09' F150 (which we still have), the tables have turned easily to a 4:1 ratio of Fords to GMs. At the end of the day they guys like the fords better for a multitude of reasons, one being the Eco-boost.

Take it for what it's worth, but to watch some of they die hard GM guys make the switch to Ford has been somewhat comical. 10-years ago I would have heard rhetoric like "I'd rather push a Chevy than drive a ford". All I can say is it's been awfully quite the last few years.[/QUOTE]

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Posted 4/10/2014 8:05 AM (#705819 - in reply to #703274)
Subject: Re: ecoboost towing

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You guys want objective, some will like this and some won't. Between my company and our sister company we run a fleet of varying trucks ranging in age with the oldest being 15-years old with brand new trucks purchased every year. These trucks get used by varying people and are on construction sites nearly daily. In fewer words than none, they are used hard! We have a multitude of suburban's, Yukon's, F150's, F250's, Silverado's, Expeditions, and a few odd balls including a Jeep, an Escape, and a grand prix. Engine's in the mix are 5.3L GMs of nearly every age, 6.0 and 6.2 GMs, 5.4 fords of varying age including a 2014 in and Expedition, 2 5.0's and 5 Ecoboost's (basically one each year since they debuted in the trucks).

Since this discussion is about Ecoboost's and towing, outside of our F250 Diesels, the little Twin turbo Ecoboost bar non tows the best with the GM 6.2 not terribly far behind. Anybody that thinks a 5.3 GM is in the same class as the Ecoboost is clueless. The big difference between the little 3.5 and the 6.2 is the 6.2 simply needs more RPM. That low RPM torque on the 3.5 is undeniable when towing and makes for a fantastic driving experience. 2nd thing is mileage, the Ecoboost varies greatly. All of our Ecoboost trucks are 3.73:1 geared and mileage ranges from a low of 9-10 towing heavy to 25 mpg at 55 mph with no adverse weather. On average the guys see 17-20mpg on the highway, 13-17mpg around town, 10-13mpg towing. Some expected better and complain a little about the mileage but none of the other trucks in the fleet are any better, everyone just expects better due to the advertising. The 6.0 GM and a the 5.4s seem to be the worst for Fuel milage without at doubt. Only 1 of the 5 ecoboost trucks have been in for service, neither of the 5.0 trucks have had any issues, we have Both a 6.2 and few 5.3s that have been in for various items. At this point I can't say one is any more reliable than the other. What I do know is put a truck in the fleet and you'd be amaze at what they manage to break! and that's on all of them. Our guys have open options to buy what they want and what works best for them so long as it's a full size SUV or Crew Cab truck. From 2000-2009 I would say we purchased 1 ford for every 3 GMs. In 09' we picked up a new F150 which became a turning table for our fleet. Since that 09' F150 (which we still have), the tables have turned easily to a 4:1 ratio of Fords to GMs. At the end of the day they guys like the fords better for a multitude of reasons, one being the Eco-boost.

Take it for what it's worth, but to watch some of they die hard GM guys make the switch to Ford has been somewhat comical. 10-years ago I would have heard rhetoric like "I'd rather push a Chevy than drive a ford". All I can say is it's been awfully quite the last few years.