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Message Subject: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky
CincySkeez
Posted 9/27/2021 6:42 PM (#996106)
Subject: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Posts: 581


Location: Duluth
Yesterday, was driving back from a trip to Copper Harbor and stopped for a bite to eat other side of Ironwood. Bar was quiet and fella next to starts talking to me, usual stuff, why you in the area, what you do etc. Muskie comes up and we have a very long and good discussion of all things muskie, which brings me to the point of this post.

This man was a history teacher, and I brought up some things I've learned from reading Larry Ramsell's post and books. Randy, the fella I was talking to, was not aware of who Larry is, and I was struggling to find a parallel in another field...then it hit me that Larry is like the Noam Chomsky of muskie fishing.

He' still active, incredidly engaging with random strangers, have a massive body of work; that stands alone in its depth and bredth of research. Time dedicated to chase downt the validity of sources. Longitudinally, both have been contriversial for their opinions but most often vindicated by time.

Just a thought
North of 8
Posted 9/27/2021 7:58 PM (#996110 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




I think Larry Ramsell should be very flattered. Chomsky is one of the great "thinkers" of our time.
mikie
Posted 9/28/2021 8:13 AM (#996113 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Location: Athens, Ohio
Among Mr. Ramsell's many accomplishments: he traveled to West Virginia to help form Chapter 9 of Muskies, Inc. with Bill Crane. Just for that, I will be forever Grateful, as I've been a member there for many years and have met there some of the finest folks put on earth. m
jb51
Posted 9/28/2021 8:28 PM (#996127 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




Posts: 27


Anarchist, anti capitalist, north Vietnamese supporter (in north Vietnam) during the war, Mao, Marx and Stallin apologist, Noam is a heck of a guy. How could a humble Muskie fisherman measure up to all that.
mikie
Posted 9/29/2021 8:04 AM (#996130 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Location: Athens, Ohio
IMHO, no human person should be defined by an "-ist". m
North of 8
Posted 9/29/2021 10:09 AM (#996138 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




Well, Chomsky is often described as the leading American linguist, don't think he would take exception to that.
pickolish1
Posted 9/29/2021 11:54 AM (#996144 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




Posts: 56


I have followed some of the lectures/interviews given by Chomsky over the years, I have found him to be a dangerous type.
He is frim in his beliefs and with the type of hard convictions that gave Lenin/Stalin and the likes of Mao the fortitude to "remove" people by the millions to achieve their utopian vision of the common good.
His defense of Paul Pot who committed geocide on Cambodia, is indefensible.
There, and with no "ist" or "isms" used.
But I digress, how about that fall Muskie fishin'
mikie
Posted 9/30/2021 8:36 AM (#996164 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Location: Athens, Ohio
SOMEBODY tell me a good fish story, please! Been laid up with a Covid breakthru for the last ten days and watching the weather change down here is killin me....
Doc said to give it at least another week before I can expect the stamina to drive RT 4-5 hrs and fish 4-6 more. m
North of 8
Posted 9/30/2021 8:44 AM (#996165 - in reply to #996164)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




mikie - 9/30/2021 8:36 AM

SOMEBODY tell me a good fish story, please! Been laid up with a Covid breakthru for the last ten days and watching the weather change down here is killin me....
Doc said to give it at least another week before I can expect the stamina to drive RT 4-5 hrs and fish 4-6 more. m


Well, one story I heard this week kind of sums up musky fishing. Two guys competing in a big musky tournament here in Oneida County landed a nice musky on the first day. They were very excited, got it unhooked in the net and were trying to get the stickered bump board in place, find the right playing card to display, etc., when they let the hoop on the net dip. Musky promptly jumped out of the net and slowly swam away. Sunday morning they were laughing as they told the story but guys fishing within ear shot of them on Saturday said the sound coming from the boat was definitely not laughter.
pickolish1
Posted 9/30/2021 10:22 AM (#996170 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




Posts: 56


Went to LOTW last week, fished maybe 2 1/2 -3 days for musky.
Boated (6) 37 1/2" to 47 1/2".
Caught a 40" while fishing for smallies- # 3 blue fox... lightest tackle I brought- no leader. Fireline...
Thought it was going to cut me off or break the pole.
She cut the lure off in the net!
The 37 1/2 was trolling a Depth Raider she or he was a fat..... fat one and was the hardest one to get in the net. Thought for the longest time it was a rock, then a log because I could move it some... but when the log moved sideways I knew.
Almost sunk a boat last Tuesday, got guides for the rest of the trip.
Thats the best I can do.
CincySkeez
Posted 10/1/2021 10:15 AM (#996189 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Posts: 581


Location: Duluth
Well Mike, don't have to work today so I'm going to fish. Hopefully I have a few pictures for ya.

Stay well
mikie
Posted 10/1/2021 4:50 PM (#996193 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Location: Athens, Ohio
Much better now, thanks, guys! m
pickolish1
Posted 10/2/2021 2:48 PM (#996197 - in reply to #996193)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




Posts: 56


When do you get out of jail Mike?
- another Mike

Edited by pickolish1 10/2/2021 2:50 PM
mikie
Posted 10/3/2021 8:37 AM (#996202 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Location: Athens, Ohio
Friday was my ten day Q; I've been without a fever three days now, hope to hit it Tuesday as my strength slowly returns. m
madmurph
Posted 10/3/2021 9:34 AM (#996203 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




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I'm not so sure I would want my name and Noam Chomsky mentioned in the same sentence.
pickolish1
Posted 10/3/2021 3:38 PM (#996212 - in reply to #996202)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




Posts: 56


Mike,
When you get back at it, where are you going?
-another Mike
mikie
Posted 10/3/2021 6:09 PM (#996216 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Location: Athens, Ohio
Piedmont, wanna come? m
pickolish1
Posted 10/5/2021 4:48 AM (#996253 - in reply to #996216)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




Posts: 56


The answer would be yes, but am I able to ? no
Where's Piedmont?
fatturtle011
Posted 10/7/2021 5:21 PM (#996319 - in reply to #996203)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




Posts: 37


Me too MM, but I think we are the minority here these days.
mikie
Posted 10/8/2021 7:40 AM (#996328 - in reply to #996319)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Location: Athens, Ohio
Anyway, Larry remains a couple cuts above the rest, and I hope one day to get to meet him.
I blew off Piedmont Tuesday, everything around here was socked in with fog. Made it up there Wednesday and hit some of my favorite spots with some of my favorite baits. It was a sunnier day than I'd been promised, saw no fish. My baits needed the exercise, though! m
North of 8
Posted 10/8/2021 10:02 AM (#996329 - in reply to #996328)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




mikie - 10/8/2021 7:40 AM

Anyway, Larry remains a couple cuts above the rest, and I hope one day to get to meet him.
I blew off Piedmont Tuesday, everything around here was socked in with fog. Made it up there Wednesday and hit some of my favorite spots with some of my favorite baits. It was a sunnier day than I'd been promised, saw no fish. My baits needed the exercise, though! m


Sounds like what I guy I have fished with a few times this year. He has only been married for a year and while his wife grew up in a family that fishes and hunts, they did not musky fish. He tells her that musky fishing is not about catching but practicing and perfecting your casting. More truth than poetry in that.
mikie
Posted 10/8/2021 11:06 AM (#996331 - in reply to #996329)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Location: Athens, Ohio
"When you don't run, you rust." - T. Petty
m
Brian Hoffies
Posted 10/8/2021 12:03 PM (#996332 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Posts: 1663


Noam Chomsky

I've no idea who this person is.
ToddM
Posted 10/8/2021 8:13 PM (#996333 - in reply to #996332)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Posts: 20173


Location: oswego, il
Brian Hoffies - 10/8/2021 12:03 PM

Noam Chomsky

I've no idea who this person is.


He hasn't had the influence over people like some have like the ones throwing out the labels above like they have Tourettes, dividing this nation.
Brian Hoffies
Posted 10/8/2021 8:40 PM (#996334 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Posts: 1663


Doesn't help. still don't know who he is or what he does.
mikie
Posted 10/9/2021 7:45 AM (#996338 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Location: Athens, Ohio
Brother, as long as you know abt Larry Ramsell, you're good. m
pickolish1
Posted 10/14/2021 3:33 PM (#996441 - in reply to #996332)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




Posts: 56


He was a linguistic philosopher in the Hayward spider chain region.
Jim Munday
Posted 10/24/2021 8:03 PM (#997718 - in reply to #996106)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




Posts: 73


I don't know who this other guy is, but I'm glad to be among the many who know Larry Ramsell personally. I was fortunate enough to fish out of his guide boat several times many years ago as a beginner in the sport. When it comes to all-things-musky there's not a guy in the world that I have more respect for. The man is not just a treasure trove of historical knowledge, but has always been a great mix of professional yet personal interactions.
muskymaniac0519
Posted 10/26/2021 8:50 AM (#997754 - in reply to #996144)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky




Posts: 2


Location: Chicago Suburbs
Chomsky? Sounds out there.

https://youtu.be/7RPt7hRfr8I


ToddM
Posted 10/26/2021 10:46 AM (#997757 - in reply to #997754)
Subject: Re: Larry Ramsell and Noam Chomsky





Posts: 20173


Location: oswego, il
muskymaniac0519 - 10/26/2021 8:50 AM

Chomsky? Sounds out there.

https://youtu.be/7RPt7hRfr8I




I can remember lining up in school and our teacher had a vaccine gun and immunized us. Shared needle and all. My how times have changed. Information has become weaponized on purpose for big profit.
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