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Location: Manchester.UK | Could anyone help out with this problem i have with an Amma Bamma running to one side constantly,doesnt matter what i try it still does it.Just wondered if theres a specific way to work them.Tia to anyone who may be able to help |
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| Get a hold of Bill Looney. You Can Google him and find contact info. |
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Location: Manchester.UK | Thanks i will give it a try |
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Location: Manchester.UK | Ive had a look for Bill and got some details but he doesnt seem to have a website or contact email,just address and tel no |
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Location: oswego, il | I bought one it floated and would not glide. I contacted Bil(this was over 15 years ago). He was more than happy to fix it and he did, personalized it, tested it and followed up awhile later to make sure I was happy with it. He told me he.does not want any bad baits out there. |
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Location: 31 | Hey J, The Amma Bamma was a kind of revolutionary glider 20 years ago, Mic Drury turned me onto it in the mid-80s and I think I still have 10 or 12 of them laying around. If I had to guess 1 out of 10 worked really well back in the day, and the rest you had to play with to varying degrees… maybe 1 out of 20 I just ended up just giving up on... perhaps that's what you have?
Either way I never found a quick fix like working it a certain way (other than working it in current) or adding a split ring, but if you don't mind drilling a couple/three holes near the belly hook it can probably be fixed. All you really need is a battery-operated drill, hammer, and some lead (worm weights work good)... I used to play around with them on the water when things were slow and glue them up later.
Pretty much like all jerk baits it's all about the weight distribution… just need to achieve a well-balanced neutrally buoyant lure and you'll probably have yourself a winner. Hope this helps
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| reefhawg - 12/2/2018 4:27 PM
Ive had a look for Bill and got some details but he doesnt seem to have a website or contact email,just address and tel no
Give him a ring. he's retired and like talking lures. |
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Location: Manchester.UK | Yeah i would normally but im in England so its not as easy to ring someone in US,time difference etc
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Location: Athens, Ohio | Try some simple stuff with changing the hooks around, try a different size hook in front, then in back (be sure you T the hook in front). m |
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Location: Manchester.UK | The lures sinks quite fast nose down and will glide a little to the left on the first tap and then kind of jerks along in a straight line with the odd glide to the left |
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| I recently purchased one of his gliders it did not run. I contacted him and sent it back he called me back after he received it and said that he ran it and it was fine maybe I didn't know how to run it. Well needless to say his statement ticked me off. I told him that I have been Musky fishing for 30 years and I know how to run a bait. Well he sent me a new one when I received it a friend of mine and I went to try it and it did not run any better then the first. So I will not buy another. His Phone number is below.
Bill Looney
304-565-7505
GOOD LUCK
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| ive never seen one like it,all the run ive used in the past were moving like a charm .try to bent the screw,i don,t think it will do a lot of change but who know.it sound more like a badly weighted one |
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Location: Delavan, WI | Amma bamma gliders are not your traditional side to side glider with nice wide swing, action is depending on how you work it but you will not get the cadence you are expecting like from a phantom or a warlock I do believe they are suppose to imitate a dying fish and are very erratic. So these statements are somewhat untrue as perhaps some people are not getting the action that is expected because that isn't what the bait was designed to do, its kinda like buying a 4 door sedan with a 4 cylinder and expecting it to perform like a 2dr v8 coupe - Its Not going to happen. I personally do not care for the action of these baits as it takes a lot of effort and practice as well as patience, I prefer an easier approach like a bucktail or topwater, but that is just me. I owned a few over the years and they just didn't get that much time in my arsenal, but good news is there is a market for them and lots of people are willing to pay good $ so if you don't like them- sell them, I also do know for a fact that they do catch fish if worked properly, including some giants |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Get some 1/4 oz stick on weights they use for balancing tires and play with it. You find the magic spot. Your looking to make it run the way you think it should. The fish don't care if it's in the water and moving it's food. |
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| I've caught many fish on the 8 in ones and #*^@ nice ones too! I gave one to a friend to use and he said the same thing that it will not "walk". He gave up on it and returned it to me. To this day it is one of my go to baits. It takes some getting used to to get it to produce. My retrieve consists of hard irratic pulls both up and down ward followed by a long pause. Hits come as the bait ends its' swing on the pause. |
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Location: 31 | First of all Bill Looney is a great guy and I always found him to be super helpful. I had a different approach back in my casting days and always asked Bill for the floaters so that I could play around to get the weight distribution myself. The challenging part of the equation for me was getting them to walk about 2’… and typically this meant adding a little weight here and there. Ideally I tried to achieve a neutrally buoyant (or slow sinking) well balanced lure, when I got one really dialed-in we could actually troll it and watch it swim nicely from side to side… caught muskies trolling them too.
The way I worked it was without a jerk... actually more of a quick short snap on a fast action rod… almost the opposite of the standard Suick “pull” for instance. I used them as true gliders and it took some practice and patience to trust it to do its thing. I would work it fairly slowly so that it coasted on long pauses with as close to slack line as possible. It usually took me about 5 min. to get the cadence/slack line thing down… between snaps I would watch the lure very closely because at the end of the glide the really good ones would just sit there and “quiver”... definitely a trigger and what made this lure so dynamic for me. I found they really excelled in cold/clear water, and in current situations. Horse Hunter made a great suggestion with the stick on weights. |
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Location: Manchester.UK | Thanks for the replies everyone,some good info and ideas there,maybe there is a certain way to work these correctly but the thing that bothers me about this lure is that it sinks like a brick nose down and only moves/glides to one side on the retrieve and i cant get it to do much else |
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| They are true through wired. I believe (but could be wrong) they are weighted at the front hook hanger where it comes out with a bit of bondo,paint and epoxy over the lead. Tough to drill out. May just have a wall hanger or add solder to the rear hook shank. |
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| Hey Reefhawg I heard that the Bammas make good firewood..??  only kidding mate try drilling some lead out of it, fast sink gliding baits suck. |
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Location: Manchester.UK | Hey Dave,it would have been if id got it before Nov 5th,i will bring it to you mate see what you can make of it |
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| reefhawg - 1/2/2019 10:58 AM
Hey Dave,it would have been if id got it before Nov 5th,i will bring it to you mate see what you can make of it
No problem pal i`ll work some magic on it. |
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| reefhawg - 12/2/2018 4:27 PM
Ive had a look for Bill and got some details but he doesnt seem to have a website or contact email,just address and tel no
Bill is pretty old school. Call his phone.
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Location: SE, WI. | Andy, IMO, nose down is the reason why it's not running....I've weighted/ modified probably close to 100 reef hawgs that guys complained about. I made a mold to pour 1/4" ingots, then drill a 1/4" hole....walla... After I balanced them...they loved them. What you want is slight back weight....SO! Try to remove some weight from the front, till it sinks slightly back down. Maybe add some lead wire on back hook may help without drilling....Hopefully work after that....JD |
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