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Message Subject: Double 8 Blades that spin well
dward
Posted 10/4/2018 11:57 PM (#920253)
Subject: Double 8 Blades that spin well




Posts: 570


Location: Germantown, WI
I recently returned from a trip to Canada where I used a lot of double 8 buck tails. The problem I had was that on 2-3 different brands ( somewhat popular brands that I won’t name) I was disappointed how often I had to pump my rod to get them spinning!!! Many tims the bald souls only engage halfway back to the boat! So my question is, provide me with some brands I should check out to purchase that start spinning right away and consistently . thanks in advance for the responses
hahdawg
Posted 10/5/2018 5:39 AM (#920254 - in reply to #920253)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well




Posts: 60


Spankys spin every time for me.
14ledo81
Posted 10/5/2018 6:12 AM (#920258 - in reply to #920254)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well





Posts: 4269


Location: Ashland WI
hahdawg - 10/5/2018 5:39 AM

Spankys spin every time for me.


I like my Spankys as well.
NathanH
Posted 10/5/2018 6:26 AM (#920259 - in reply to #920253)
Subject: RE: Double 8 Blades that spin well





Posts: 859


Location: MN
Change over to mag 7’s they are a touch bigger and are .25 thick. Gerry Carroll ie bigbite on this board can make you some. Lots of guys use him the best skirts and baits for the money period. I’m in no way associated with him but like you I hate stuff that doesn’t work, and love. Stuff that does.

Also guys will tell you that you can bend the clevis to help, also the type of bead below the clevis can help. That’s all true. But Gerry’s mag 7’s just spin. I know it’s costing him more to make his baits with those blades, but he’s looking out for the fisherman not trying to make an extra buck.
jdsplasher
Posted 10/5/2018 6:55 AM (#920263 - in reply to #920259)
Subject: RE: Double 8 Blades that spin well





Posts: 2227


Location: SE, WI.
It sounds like your referring to dbl 8 Colorado's . This happens because the cup in the blade. Seems like a vacuum occurs when blades piggy back when wet. Kind of like a suction cup!

 For me, I'd suggest taking a side cutter, cut one clevis, and use as a single. Do very well with just a single Colorado.

 OR, rewire with a 7, and 8. One of them being a deep cup, one a standard Colorado. No vacuum occurs W/ varied  blade sizes. And always use a solid bead under clevis. Also, a larger solid bead keeps blade away from shaft, helping blade spin more consistent!

 JD

tkuntz
Posted 10/5/2018 6:56 AM (#920264 - in reply to #920253)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well




Posts: 815


Location: Waukee, IA
Spankys are the only 8s that spin well for me.
Baitwasher
Posted 10/5/2018 7:32 AM (#920268 - in reply to #920253)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well





Posts: 31


Location: Merrill, WI
I throw a lot of Musky Mayhem and Big Tooth and never have any problems with them spinning. Check the clevis and make sure it has a true "U" shape and that the ends where the wire goes through is truly parallel with one another. If they aren't just take a pliers and "pinch" them a little to get a true "U" shape. The more parallel the ends of the clevis the smoother the blades will spin.
Pointerpride102
Posted 10/5/2018 9:24 AM (#920297 - in reply to #920268)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
As mentioned, bend the clevisis inward to form a better U shape. Then get some spankys. And then upgrade to 9s.
Cedar
Posted 10/5/2018 10:13 AM (#920308 - in reply to #920253)
Subject: RE: Double 8 Blades that spin well




Posts: 341


Location: Western U.P.
dward - 10/4/2018 11:57 PM

I recently returned from a trip to Canada where I used a lot of double 8 buck tails. The problem I had was that on 2-3 different brands ( somewhat popular brands that I won’t name) I was disappointed how often I had to pump my rod to get them spinning!!! Many tims the bald souls only engage halfway back to the boat! So my question is, provide me with some brands I should check out to purchase that start spinning right away and consistently . thanks in advance for the responses



If after you've checked the blade clevis, as stated previously, and the blades still don't spin right away, try this. Grab a problem blade by it's sides, and GENTLY & SLOWLY pinch with fingers, palms, or pliers to change the radius of the blade cup. More often than not, one slight change will allow the blades to fire right away. If the first squeeze doesn't work, repeat. This should take care of the problem.
tyler k
Posted 10/5/2018 10:13 AM (#920309 - in reply to #920253)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well




Posts: 409


Location: Almond, WI
Rabskatails. Josh Rabska tunes the clevises on all the bucktails he makes.
Smell_Esox
Posted 10/5/2018 2:21 PM (#920334 - in reply to #920253)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well




Posts: 267


Mine spin better if I make sure the clevises are good, but they still aren't perfect. I too have been disappointed and frustrated at times.
Jeff Hanson
Posted 10/5/2018 4:40 PM (#920346 - in reply to #920334)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well




Posts: 937


Buy Spankys every one spins every time.
Team Rhino has some killer colors.
Jeff Hanson
madisonmuskyguide.com
T.Carlson
Posted 10/5/2018 4:45 PM (#920347 - in reply to #920253)
Subject: RE: Double 8 Blades that spin well




Posts: 155


Musky Frenzy Apache Double 8 and Stagger 8's spin perfect. The clevis is 1 solid piece instead of 2 individual clevis. They spin perfect! I would buy a couple of those if you can!!
figure 8
Posted 10/5/2018 5:01 PM (#920351 - in reply to #920347)
Subject: RE: Double 8 Blades that spin well




Posts: 238


As many others have said buy Spanky's. Mine always spin. I quit buying other brands 3 years ago. I also really like that the spanky double 8's have 2 hooks on them.
Muskiemetal
Posted 10/6/2018 9:21 AM (#920380 - in reply to #920253)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well





Posts: 676


Location: Wisconsin
https://media.giphy.com/media/igFPoqfY0AeX8aC1OH/giphy.gif

Not a scratch on the blades either.
Tackle Industries
Posted 10/6/2018 10:35 AM (#920382 - in reply to #920253)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
Make sure the clevis is in-line with the shaft. Some will get off a little.

The Tackle Industries D10 and D8s all use slightly oversized clevises to get them to spin up right away!!

https://tackleindustries.com/product-category/bucktails_spinnerbaits...

Enjoy.
Sidejack
Posted 10/6/2018 12:18 PM (#920388 - in reply to #920253)
Subject: RE: Double 8 Blades that spin well





Posts: 1080


Location: Aurora
Something to try before you sell off all of your non-spinny dbl 8's is putting a slight bend at the tip/hole where they connect to the clevis. It can be done with a small needle nose or round nose pliers and it can be done to an assembled spinner. Something else to consider when crimping the clevises down square is getting them as close as possible to one another so they "share" the load both on top and bottom where they meet. If they're not close enough, one will always ride on the other. I don't think a mic or caliper is needed, but you could use one if you're anal and want t be exact. I continue to bring clevises into square when building but tweaking & testing over the years has shown it's not as a significant contributing factor as implementing the bend at the tips of each blade. Once the bend is in place, it allows water to flow beneath the blades and helps to open them up. Other things to keep in mind is that some 8's have more of a dramatically shaped cup to them than others, run closer to the shaft when open, and will pull less than flatter shaped blades. Flatter blades open up more, provide more lift, and as a result pull harder. Most brands use thinner blades in the .020 to .025 range but some use .040 (like Spankys, Mayhem Trolling Girls, and others) which, because of their added weight are more spin-friendly, but also run closer to the shaft when open, provide less lift than thinner blades, run deeper, and don't pull as hard as thinner blades. Both catch fish despite most articles stating that the hardest pulling spinners attract the most attention and thus catch more fish. See below for some before & after pics of how to put the bend in and match up clevises.


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supertrollr
Posted 10/6/2018 1:15 PM (#920391 - in reply to #920253)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well


look the clevis,all the blades spin
7ovr50
Posted 10/7/2018 2:16 PM (#920408 - in reply to #920253)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well




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The bending trick works well. I've been doing it on the water for years. The bending works more often than not. Just go slow bending the blade a little at a time. Great tip!
dward
Posted 10/7/2018 6:20 PM (#920423 - in reply to #920408)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well




Posts: 570


Location: Germantown, WI
All good info guys! I will start with the bending of blades
TheShow
Posted 10/7/2018 9:16 PM (#920450 - in reply to #920423)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well




Posts: 347


Location: Vilas County, WI
Excellent post Sidejack. Good info there!
muskyjim123
Posted 10/8/2018 11:56 PM (#920509 - in reply to #920450)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well





Posts: 270


Location: brooklyn park mn
i only use pdeez bucktails for the 8s. to many other brands ive tried that you need to tune to much or just dont work consistenly.
https://pdeezmuskyinlines.com
the km fluted series from pdeez is my new favorite that is similar for my liking.
tolle141
Posted 10/9/2018 12:21 PM (#920543 - in reply to #920253)
Subject: Re: Double 8 Blades that spin well





Posts: 1000


Spankys are good due to the quality of their components. Musky Frenzy doubles are the best in my experience as that double clevis enables the two blades to help each other "spin up" faster
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