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esox50
Posted 10/20/2009 5:29 PM (#405764 - in reply to #405709)
Subject: RE: fizzing a musky





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dcates - 10/20/2009 12:01 PM

The January issue of Fisheries (Vol. 34, No. 1, page 20) from the American Fisheries Society has an interesting article regarding venting of fish (not directly muskie oriented). While I have seen the concept promoted more for bass, lake trout, and walleyes than muskies, I see no reason the same concepts would not apply. The article not only discourages the practice, but also argues for regulations prohibiting the practice as being detrimental to survivability of the released fish.


There's a link to that article's abstract in my above post.
muskiewhored
Posted 10/20/2009 6:00 PM (#405768 - in reply to #403951)
Subject: Re: fizzing a musky





Location: Oswego, IL
Be careful on the "possession law" if its not a legal fish, this is NOT a simple CPR practice, get caught and fish dont make it your in bigger trouble. I suggest not doing this unless you are experienced otherwise unfortunately let nature take its course.
marc thorpe
Posted 10/22/2009 5:56 AM (#405981 - in reply to #403951)
Subject: RE: fizzing a musky


I have dealt with this issue on several occasions,on a yearly basis

Generally,I hold them till they they stabilize and right thenlseves and remain at surface and cease attempt of going down.
You may have to re-stabilize the fish a couple of times,once she is stable and remains at surface,give distance to the fish so that the human interaction that proceeded is calmed down.I suspect many times they try and dive to get away from us.

Once the fish figures out its has a swim bladder issue and cease to to attempt to dive,they generally remain at the surface,and withing 30 minutes to 1 hour,yes 1 hour,they expel the trapped air ,you will observe air bubbles coming from the gills plates.

I have seldom heard them burb

The key is stabilizing the fish and getting away from it.
Restraining a fish tends to lead to heightened stress which on some occasion leads to seizures and death.
I suspect internally the fish is not feeling well and the experience of being restrained leads to heightened stress

from my observations rosy flanks indicate high stress levels,minimizing handling and retention and out of water experience for such individuals is the safest way of going about it
Its my observation and understanding from the body language/signs the fish seem to display at high stress levels

I dont recommend fizzing them,I suspect vital injuries could occur.
Keep in mind an Esox swim bladders is shaped the same way as most fish,its elongated

rpieske
Posted 10/22/2009 12:08 PM (#406018 - in reply to #405981)
Subject: RE: fizzing a musky





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Location: St. Louis, MO., Marco Is., FL, Nestor Falls, ON

Thanks, Marc.  This represents the forum at its best.  Anglers exchanging useful information that benefits us as muskie fishermen and the muskies, also. 

I will use your technique should I ever run into the problem again.  I had no idea it could take up to an hour for the fish to stabilize and release the air.  Thanks for the information and your contributions to the board.

Good Fishing!!!

esox50
Posted 10/30/2009 9:30 AM (#407084 - in reply to #403951)
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Follow up to this thread: http://projectnoblebeast.blogspot.com/2009/10/necropsy-notes-swim-b...
Will Schultz
Posted 10/30/2009 10:06 AM (#407089 - in reply to #407084)
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Well done Sean.
tuffy1
Posted 10/30/2009 10:10 AM (#407090 - in reply to #407089)
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Location: Racine, Wi
Nice work Sean!
Jsondag
Posted 10/30/2009 8:55 PM (#407165 - in reply to #403951)
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Location: Pelican Rapids, MN
Yeah Sean, good lookin' out!
rpieske
Posted 11/2/2009 11:41 AM (#407422 - in reply to #403951)
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Location: St. Louis, MO., Marco Is., FL, Nestor Falls, ON
Great link......I've added to my Favorites.
Pointerpride102
Posted 11/2/2009 12:18 PM (#407426 - in reply to #407422)
Subject: Re: fizzing a musky





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Location: The desert
Good post 50. Much better explanation than the one I try to give the anglers out on the water that I talk to.

One could just take the thing home and have a delicious fish fry.....
PIKEMASTER
Posted 11/2/2009 12:29 PM (#407427 - in reply to #403951)
Subject: RE: fizzing a musky





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
NO Fizzing needed for Pointnerpride 102 after #4 and his team put away the Packers the second time this year !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
curleytail
Posted 11/2/2009 1:02 PM (#407429 - in reply to #403951)
Subject: RE: fizzing a musky




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Location: Hayward, WI
Great thread. Two summers ago I had a musky that seemed strong, but kept wanting to go belly up. I stayed with it for quite a while, and it finally went down. I wish I was aware of the burping thing then. Never knew they could do that, or that you could help them burp. The water temps were pretty warm, so I was also nervous about just letting it sit there on the surface for too long. If this happens again, maybe a little belly massage will help the fish get bck down quicker.

Good information here.

curleytail
Pointerpride102
Posted 11/2/2009 1:11 PM (#407434 - in reply to #407427)
Subject: RE: fizzing a musky





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Location: The desert
PIKEMASTER - 11/2/2009 12:29 PM

NO Fizzing needed for Pointnerpride 102 after #4 and his team put away the Packers the second time this year !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Um....Ok. Give me a shout when the Vikings win a superbowl. The Vikings are clearly a better team as a whole. The quarterback position is a wash.
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