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Message Subject: Short line trolling
Mudpuppy
Posted 5/28/2018 9:32 PM (#908476)
Subject: Short line trolling




Posts: 205


Location: Elroy, Wisconsin
Are there any short line trolling experts out there? This old dog needs to learn a few new tricks. Best speed, water depth, line length. Any help appreciated.

Mudpuppy
Jerry Newman
Posted 5/30/2018 8:47 AM (#908611 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: RE: Short line trolling




Location: 31
3.5 - 4 MPH 20' line with rod submerged a couple feet... scrub the edges.
8HPTROLLER
Posted 5/30/2018 11:35 AM (#908633 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling




Posts: 38


Jerry, when did you start long lining? HaHa. have caught many with less than 5 feet of line out. Tuff shads make great short lining baits.
Rich
ToddM
Posted 5/30/2018 12:14 PM (#908637 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling





Posts: 15896


Location: oswego, il
Short line trolling can mean many things. I have caught fish trolling shallow weeds before with 5ft of line out and trolling them next to not behind the boat. Edges, flats, deep water all determine what bait and how much line.
supertrollr
Posted 5/30/2018 1:23 PM (#908642 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling





8' of line out at 4-6 mph.there is not a lot of lures that will not pop out with that kind of setup. jointed lures shine more than the straight one for short line. wiley fat body are my best one but dale have stop making them since years.killer are also very good.if you don't want to wait months get them at jacksonlures , they've got them in stock. good luck
Mudpuppy
Posted 5/30/2018 9:20 PM (#908701 - in reply to #908642)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling




Posts: 205


Location: Elroy, Wisconsin
Thanks a lot. How about success? Over shallow weeds the best?

Replies appreciated,

Mudpuppy
ToddM
Posted 5/30/2018 9:41 PM (#908703 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling





Posts: 15896


Location: oswego, il
I have had my best luck on the edges but it really depends on where you are fishing, the available structure and where the fish will be.
MuskyMATT7
Posted 5/31/2018 2:49 PM (#908744 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling





Posts: 552


Location: 15 miles east of Lake Kinkaid
Spend a day in the boat with Gregg Thomas down on the Cave, he will teach you more in 8 hours than you will learn in 10 years solo.
8HPTROLLER
Posted 5/31/2018 4:09 PM (#908753 - in reply to #908744)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling




Posts: 38


Amen to that !
Rich
Erieboy75
Posted 5/31/2018 5:43 PM (#908757 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling




Posts: 162


Or Lance Seasor, one of Tony's guides at the Cave.
ripperzip
Posted 6/4/2018 9:01 PM (#909155 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: RE: Short line trolling




Posts: 1


Mudpuppy, where are you looking to do your short line trolling? On the flats or inside turns of points and reefs?
muskie-don58
Posted 6/8/2018 9:53 AM (#909450 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: RE: Short line trolling




Posts: 198


Location: FIB land
MuskyHunter magazine April/May 2014 by Gregg Thomas . “Short-Line Success”
Mudpuppy
Posted 6/9/2018 12:23 PM (#909534 - in reply to #909450)
Subject: RE: Short line trolling




Posts: 205


Location: Elroy, Wisconsin
Shallow flats no weeds, and some breaklines. Thanks for the replies

Mudpuppy
supertrollr
Posted 6/10/2018 8:32 PM (#909589 - in reply to #909534)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling





in brown water sometimes it can represent more than half of my fish. for some reason i forget to talk about bk les chubbies which is my go to cranks. not the riverrun, brian kroll ! at some days it even work really well at gin clear water. the best line you can use for that technic is 30 pound monel , then you will be able to move your lures deeper than you would do with braid with a min of line out. you will need a soft rod like the catfish rod with ss guides.and your drag have to be set less tighter that you would normally do. you will feel every move of the fish like never before.the point is not just about the depth that you can reach it's also about control when you see weed pocket,rock you can dodge them and pass really close to them and the lure will pass at the exact place the boat go
Illineye
Posted 6/12/2018 12:54 PM (#909753 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling




Posts: 62


Location: Springfield, IL and Vermilion Bay, ON
I like to dedicate a rod right in the prop wash out about 10-15 ft. I have used safety pin spinner(no roll or twist) and shallow cranks and bull dawgs...all with success. And works well going along the edge or even thru weed beds...3.0-3.5 mph.
dtaijo174
Posted 6/13/2018 1:05 PM (#909880 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling





Posts: 1168


Location: New Hope MN
how about clear water? I worry about having the lures so close to the boat would spook em. But i have never tried this before... always wanted to.
NPike
Posted 6/13/2018 2:43 PM (#909887 - in reply to #908703)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling




Posts: 382


ToddM - 5/30/2018 10:41 PM

I have had my best luck on the edges but it really depends on where you are fishing, the available structure and where the fish will be.


Only seen dinks over the weeds. They're at the edges or deeper. The only time I've seen them shallow is early on prior to the setup of the weeds.
ToddM
Posted 6/13/2018 5:35 PM (#909909 - in reply to #909887)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling





Posts: 15896


Location: oswego, il
NPike - 6/13/2018 2:43 PM

ToddM - 5/30/2018 10:41 PM

I have had my best luck on the edges but it really depends on where you are fishing, the available structure and where the fish will be.


Only seen dinks over the weeds. They're at the edges or deeper. The only time I've seen them shallow is early on prior to the setup of the weeds.


That all depends on where you are fishing.
Nershi
Posted 6/13/2018 6:28 PM (#909912 - in reply to #909880)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling




Location: MN
dtaijo174 - 6/13/2018 1:05 PM

how about clear water? I worry about having the lures so close to the boat would spook em. But i have never tried this before... always wanted to.


When sondag was still guiding muskies I know he had good success on DL short line trolling weed edges. DL is clear. Never tried it myself because I prefer casting. No clue if that still works there now that they’ve sprayed the weeds so much and decimated the cabbage in the lake.
Schultz345
Posted 6/13/2018 8:02 PM (#909919 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling




Posts: 213


I wouldn't call DL clear, really. But clear or dark, any lake with leech lake strain will have a trolling bite.
Nershi
Posted 6/14/2018 9:46 AM (#909944 - in reply to #909919)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling




Location: MN
Schultz345 - 6/13/2018 8:02 PM

I wouldn't call DL clear, really. But clear or dark, any lake with leech lake strain will have a trolling bite.


It certainly isn't Pelican clear. On DL before the algae gets rocking I can see the bottom about 10 ft. I fish a lot of stained water so I guess I consider that clear. Everything's relative, I guess. The boat would be within sight of the baits with how short he ran his lines.
tkuntz
Posted 6/14/2018 11:53 AM (#909957 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling




Posts: 767


Location: Waukee, IA
I did well trolling a very clear lake last year on short line. Could see the bait next to the prop wash. Picked up 3 fish that way in a short period of time.
BigC
Posted 6/18/2018 7:42 AM (#910219 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling





Location: On the O
Was opening weekend up here and my friend and I were talking about this post after a long day of fish and we decided we've done it before lets try it again, really glad we did.

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tyler k
Posted 6/19/2018 2:35 PM (#910388 - in reply to #908476)
Subject: Re: Short line trolling




Posts: 360


Location: Almond, WI
How many of you prefer to run the bait to next to the propwash (8-9' rod sticking out at 90 degrees) as opposed to in the propwash (straight back down rod)? And is there a scenario where one may be advantageous over the other, or is it a lake specific/experimentation thing?
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