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Location: Appleton,WI | Just wounder what everybody has out there for a boat,Im gonna buy a boat this spring but dont know what size to get??Does a more $$$$ boat better than a less $$$ boat??Whats a good starting boat.Its been like 4 years since i had a boat.
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| E,
How much do you have to spend. There's a couple nice boats in the classifieds. That Tuffy Magnum 1800 is a nice boat. Ask DaveJ, I think it's the same as his. Also, I have fished out a Crestliner CVX182, just like Musky Fever is selling. Great boat to fish muskies out of. I like that boat much better than the 1850 Muskie Edition.
Just a couple suggestions. |
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Location: Appleton,WI | Id really like to get a nice fiberglass boat so its more stable and I dont get blowen around. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | MuskieE, pretty sure you and I are about in the same demographic in terms of spending power for boats....MY OPINION is this:
FISHABILITY is the number one thing for those of us without a ton of $$$ to spend to get what we "really want"
Things to consider:
Can you fish the ways you want to fish? Can you fish the size/types of water you want to fish? Can you pull it with your vehicle? Can you fix the kinds/types of problems you might see in the near future with this boat?
Just a few thoughts, cause without a price range, it's hard to say what's good for you.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The water you intend to fish, and the weather conditions under which you wish to be able to fish those waters will have alot to do with whether you 'need' a big boat. I think most waters can be fished out of a 17 footer as long as it is a hull designed to take some rough stuff, and the power on the back is large enough to allow the hull to do it's job. |
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Location: Lafayette, IN | I'd been looking for a boat for 3 years. My 2 biggest considerations?..... price and platform. If I'd seen a 16 footer with the right layout (including the ability to modify it to suit me) I'd have bought it. Every boat I stood in, every picture I looked at, I was imagining the ways and conditions I was planning on using it in. I finally came across a 19' alum deep-vee with a substantial outboard, 1 good finder, a huge rod locker and plenty of ways to modify it. I spent a little more than what I had originally intended but when I saw the boat I knew it was the one I'd imagined our family in. Cost?.....$7500 But, I had to wait 3 years to find it. My advice to you.....BE PATIENT and by what you want. |
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Location: Pewaukee, WI | I did alot of homework before I bought my boat. The best thing I would recommend is to get out on the water with the models your interested in. Either with a guide, with a friend, or someone from the MuskieFirst site. There are alot of little things you will notice while on the water both good and bad. Just like muskie fishing itself, you will find everyone has a different opinion on what is best about their boat. My theory was to buy a used rig to start out, and after several seasons decide what direction to go when I buy a new boat. I have a 17'6" deep V fiberglass boat your welcome to hop in this year...good luck! |
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Location: Appleton,WI | Do you get a good boat buying used or is new the way to go??
Is there anything wrong with buying a used boat?
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Location: Pewaukee, WI | I bought from someone I knew, so there was some peace of mind. I think the money saved buying used outweighs the possible problems you might run into. If you find a used boat, I would take it to a mechanic and have him check compression, lower end, etc. before you buy...I think the 50.00 of so you would spend is cheap insurance. Buying used also allows you to make your rookie mistakes at the boat launch, on the water and backing into the garage a little less painful...putting the first ding on your brand new rig...would really suck, adding one to a used rig...Oh well, no biggie. Happy boat hunting! |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | I thought I saw you could buy a new Tuffy Esox Magnum at a fishing show for around $16,000 with a 60HP Merc. Could I be wrong here? Of course this is only a good boat if you don't mind fishing out of a glorified Jon boat! Actually Paul Klein has an Esox Magnum, and I have fished out of it. It is a nice boat to fish out of with quite a bit of room, but isn't the greatest on big rough water. |
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Location: mount prospect illinois | Remember, Tuffy has the Esox deep v series which has the same layout as the magnums but in a deep v and it can handle rougher water. As for size, the one i have is 17' and can fish three dudes casting out of it. I have no regrets. |
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| I'm just a guy with 16' boat but I love fishen and I get the odd big one just like everybody else. It's cheap on gas but it trolls just great. Once you get down around 2-8 mph that's when all the fun starts anyway. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Actually, an Esox Magnum with a 60 4 stroke would be closer to $18000 with tax and rigging. Many of the Crestliner aluminums are in the middle teens. A 1690 Patriot T with a 60HP 4 stroke and custom trailer would be about $15995 tax, water ready. Alumacraft makes some boats in that class in the middle teens, too. Used rigs can be the way to go if on a budget, and it is definitely a buyers market! |
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| Don't forget Lund! The 1700 Angler with a 75-80HP 4 Stroke tiller should be right around $14,000. My Angler SS would have been 16,500 with a 115 HP 4 Stroke. Very nice boat. Wide, stable, lots of room, Handles, and fishes great. With the 135 Opti, she flies, too.
You looking new or used, E? |
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Location: Appleton,WI | Im looking for the best deal weather new or used.I need something big but not to big.I have alot of small lakes to fish with shallow landings but also need it big enuf to handle winnebago in a few years when the muskies are grown up in there.I kinda like the fisherman ranger thats alittle narrower and not as big,but alsofound a great deal on a aluminum boat.So as it is Im still open to what ever but will buy before june. |
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| so we can help you in your quest, what is your budget for the new rig? |
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Location: Appleton,WI | Umm....used how about $10,000-15,000 prefer a used fiberglass.
But I did find a used 2000 16" alumnacraft mag series for cheap are these good boats?? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Call Gregg at West End Sports in Red Wing, MN. He has a couple non-current 1700 Tuffy models in the range you list, new, never been used. 651.388.6591 |
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| http://www.boattraderonline.com/
This is where I found my Lake Michigan boat this past winter. |
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Location: Pardeeville, WI | Dude if you look around a bunch, you will find a way cheaper boat than 14,000 dollars.
I have a 16'6" bass boat that I just love. Even though it was given to me it would probably not sell for more than $4,000 tops.
My buddy just got a kick ass aluminum boat for $3,800 dollars.
My boat has a depthfinder, 70 hp Evinrude, MinnKota Genesis,
2 small bass sized live wells, 7'6" rod lockers, all kinds of dry
storage, power tilt, mechanical anchor, onboard batter charger, etc...
I have had it on lakes up to 10,000 acres with no problem. Sure you might get bounced around a bit more than a deep V but then again you have less wind resistance to get blow around also.
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | E,
Neighbor owns a 165 mag and he loves it!! His is console and a little underpowered, but it does really well for his purpose. I have a little lighter boat than his in the Lunker series. I fish mine on lakes that are under 100 acres to leech lake and have had it out in Chequamigan bay without any problems. The only thing I have to do is slow down in bigger waves maybe a little more than others do with heavier rigs. At around 900 pounds loaded, its easy to maneuver, and with the newer design, you have a aft platform to stand on (I have the 99 model and added a platform)
Fairly quick at 36 mph...and does not blow too much in big wind. Should be able to buy new with a 50 on it (max power) around 10K.
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Location: Chippewa Falls Wisconsin | Yes...A big boat is the key!
You can go anywhere...Anytime
Need I say more |
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Location: Appleton,WI | Wow thanks for all the input ill report back thursday after I go to lok at it!You guys can help me rig my new boat too.How does that sound?? |
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| I disagree with Jason! A big boat (like a smaller boat) has it's place and time. There WILL be some boat launches that you will not be able to get a big boat into. Look at where you do most of your fishing and what you want to do, and then buy a boat. |
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| Folks, it appears we have yet another case of the "Goldi-Locks & the 3 Boats"; what Eric is trying to say is that he seeks a vessel not too large, not too small, but one that is just right. Unfortunately, being able to determine just which craft is "right" has created quite a stir for the youngster, and there is a strong possibility that a certain degree of mental anquish is quickly developing, thus rendering his quest all the more difficult. Might I suggest taking a short siesta from this; perhaps after a few days and some rest, he will be better able to resume his search for the original intention...breath my friend...BREATH!!! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | We will help you rig the boat if you take us fishing!!  |
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| Dang, I wish I had this dilemma.
Sponge is right; take a deep breath, go play with your dog and/or kids for a while, then reconsider what you want to achieve.
A small boat often can't safely go where a big boat can go. But...
A big boat is very tough for one person to manage at the landing in high winds or current, and big boats often can't be launched at shallow and/or rustic landings. But...
A small boat can go lots of (underpressured) places that big boats can't go, including "jungles" of timber and many rivers. But....
The size of the price tag is usually directly proportional to the size of the boat.
Hmmm.....get a medium boat. |
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Do you need a big boat??