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Location: With my son on the water | This may sound like a dumb question but after 30+ years of palming either a 5500 or a Revo 50 I broke down and bought a Tranx last spring. I have exclusively used it for 10s and I am convinced it is the best tool for the job and ya I did catch a fair amount of fish with it.
So my dumb question is how are some of you die hards or self proclaimed experts holding these reels? (Behind the reel seat, infront of the reel seat, palm the entire reel, palm the back half?) I have used the reel one full season and I still haven't settled in on a comfortable spot yet.
Your feedback is appreciated.
Thanks and have a good day. |
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| Fore grip for all my reels particularly the large ones. Abu 7000s, Calcutta 700s. Takes some getting used too, but the leverage on hooksets in any direction is excellent. |
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| I alternate between 2 and 3 fingers above the trigger. I have my PG mounted on a 9' Steel 25 built by Frankie. The reel seat is an 18 I believe. Great combo and very comfortable. |
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| I have all my fingers in front of the trigger and, palm the entire reel, ones in a while i grab the front grip, but the main part of the time i palm the beast. |
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| Fishboy19 - 9/25/2014 7:47 AM
Fore grip for all my reels particularly the large ones. Abu 7000s, Calcutta 700s. Takes some getting used too, but the leverage on hooksets in any direction is excellent.
Yup...Look at Guys like Mike Lazzerus or Bob Turgeon (pretty ridiculousely good sticks) and this is how they do and why they do it. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Mojo1269 - 9/25/2014 8:13 AM
Fishboy19 - 9/25/2014 7:47 AM
Fore grip for all my reels particularly the large ones. Abu 7000s, Calcutta 700s. Takes some getting used too, but the leverage on hooksets in any direction is excellent.
Yup...Look at Guys like Mike Lazzerus or Bob Turgeon (pretty ridiculousely good sticks ) and this is how they do and why they do it.
Or guys like Saric, Heiting, Bucher, who palm the reels, and have fished a day or two.
Sorry, just being smart this morning, but I think the example shows you have to do what works best for yourself. I don't have a Tranx but I like to palm the reel because it feels weird holding in front of it, and I like to be able to thumb the spool when ripping big baits or setting the hook.
The few times I've held a Tranx, it felt uncomfortable due to how high it sat above the reel seat.
Doing what you are doing, and holding the reel several different ways throughout the day might be a good way to reduce hand fatigue and cramping. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | I palm the back half of the reel. All of my rods have the palming seat so all fingers are just in front of the trigger. I will say the Tranx is very uncomfortable for me with a standard reel seat. Index finger goes in front of the reel where the side plate slopes up. To me it is more comfortable than a Toro, but I use both. |
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| Speaking for an engineering poinit of view the extra leverage gained form holding the foregrip on hook sets is factual so if you can get past the "it feels wierd" point its offers some true advantage. My guess is most of are not anywherenear the sticks the above listed group of palmers or foregrip holders are so we need every advantage we can get. |
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| Mojo1269 - 9/25/2014 8:13 AM
Yup...Look at Guys like Mike Lazzerus or Bob Turgeon (pretty ridiculousely good sticks) and this is how they do and why they do it.
Ya when I get over 50 and need more leverage on my hooksets...I might do it that way too. Palm my Tranx ...heck I palm a 700TE too |
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Location: S.W. WI | Fishboy19 - 9/25/2014 7:47 AM
Fore grip for all my reels particularly the large ones. Abu 7000s, Calcutta 700s. Takes some getting used too, but the leverage on hooksets in any direction is excellent.
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Learn to use the foregrip if you can. I have way more control and power using foregrip than palming. But you have to do what feels better for you.
I do use a small lefty reel to palm to mix it up, using pretty much only small bucktails. |
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| I don't have any data, but I don't belive where one holds the reel will make much of a difference in hooking power. Just as I don't believe holding the rod in my dominate hand will incresae power or control.Comfort is another issue. |
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| I palm mine. |
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Location: MN | I palm it the same way I palm my smaller reels. When I bought the Tranx I was concerned about getting used to the size but now it feels normal and my "normal" size reels seem tiny. If you get a good palm on it you should have no problem doing a solid hookset IMO. |
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Location: Minnesota. | I need leverage so I use the fore-grip. I only have the 400TE's though.
Like one poster suggested, varying up a bit for comfort is good until you fall into the place where you're comfy with your eqpt. And that will change over time too.
Not bad query. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Mojo1269 - 9/25/2014 9:22 AM
Speaking for an engineering poinit of view the extra leverage gained form holding the foregrip on hook sets is factual so if you can get past the "it feels wierd" point its offers some true advantage. My guess is most of are not anywherenear the sticks the above listed group of palmers or foregrip holders are so we need every advantage we can get.
I figure ripping Mag Dawg to Pounder sized baits is hard on the reel if relying on the reel only to hold up to that force. Using my thumb to take some pressure off the anti reverse seems good for the reel, plus it puts me in a position to clamp down on the hookset, or at any time hit free spool and control the spool with my thumb.
I'm far far far from being a bodybuilder or powerlifter, but I've never felt like I lost a fish because I couldn't set the hook hard enough, with my left hand, palming the reel.
Everybody has their own style and modifies their tackle, setup, and form to go along with what works for them. That's easy to see with even top level pros, regardless of the sport. Not everybody has the same form or prefers the same equipment. |
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Location: S.W. WI | Southshore - 9/25/2014 10:01 AM
I don't have any data, but I don't belive where one holds the reel will make much of a difference in hooking power. Just as I don't believe holding the rod in my dominate hand will incresae power or control.Comfort is another issue.
Well, In my experience, I notice a huge difference between palming and the Forgrip hold. It's not the hook set as much as an extreme hard bite with no warning, (when you may not be in the ideal position) and feeling your rod and reel getting pulled out of your grip. It happens to me when palming, but it does not happen with the foregrip Maina hold.
To each his own... I know what works for me, may not work for you.
But it is undeniably better to me. |
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Location: Leech Lake, Walker MN | Holding by the fore grip is the way to go for many reasons |
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Location: Leech Lake, Walker MN | Holding the fore grip is the way to go for many reasons |
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Location: Oconomowoc, WI | "Yup...Look at Guys like Mike Lazzerus or Bob Turgeon (pretty ridiculousely good sticks) and this is how they do and why they do it."
This is a little off topic, but from what I've seen, Lazarus not only holds the fore grip. He also has the rod on the right side of his body when he reels. Looks very awkward, but seems to work for them. |
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| I palm. Index finger under the levelwind in that open gap there |
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| Fore grip takes awhile to get used to but gives great hook sets and less cramps in your hand after a full day of casting. |
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| oconesox - 9/25/2014 3:58 PM
I think Dennis Lappen, owner of Musky Innovations does the same thing. Looks very awkward, but seems to work for them.
Doesn't Brad Ruh own that? |
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Location: Oconomowoc, WI | You are correct. My mistake. |
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Location: Tennessee | My hands aren't huge, but I palm mine no trouble |
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| Anonymous - 9/26/2014 1:17 AM
oconesox - 9/25/2014 3:58 PM
I think Dennis Lappen, owner of Musky Innovations does the same thing. Looks very awkward, but seems to work for them.
Doesn't Brad Ruh own that?
I believe they both hav a piece of it or at least once did it was at one point
Deniis = $$
Brad = operations
On topic anything Dennis does looks awkward from when I have seen him on MH. and yes BT and ML hold the rod on the right side. |
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