Detroit River
pigeontroller
Posted 9/6/2014 5:42 PM (#728902)
Subject: Detroit River




Posts: 225


Location: Ontario, Canada
If you fish the detroit river, keep an eye out for this guy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzdesfXfaTY
musky1969
Posted 9/6/2014 5:46 PM (#728904 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: RE: Detroit River @sswipe




Posts: 214


Seen that video!! That guy should have his license revoked for life!!!
esoxaddict
Posted 9/6/2014 6:35 PM (#728913 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River @sswipe





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If he's fishing the Canada side and the Ontario MNR gets wind of it, that may be a real possibility.

I don't know this first hand, but I have heard from those less fortunate that when the MNR gets done with you, you'll wish you never fished a day in your life!
brianT
Posted 9/6/2014 6:55 PM (#728917 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River @sswipe





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Location: Planet Meltdown
Can anyone confirm if that's the Ontario side or not? I sent the link to the MNR.
jerryb
Posted 9/6/2014 8:16 PM (#728933 - in reply to #728917)
Subject: Re: Detroit River @sswipe




Posts: 688


Location: Northern IL
Defiantly the Canadian side, know the area well. Moron!
EsoxAddiction
Posted 9/6/2014 8:23 PM (#728934 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River @sswipe




Posts: 334


Location: Madison, WI
I found that randomly on YouTube and couldn't believe what I was watching. Absolute disgrace to fishing.
andreula
Posted 9/6/2014 9:06 PM (#728938 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River @sswipe




Posts: 134


Wow awesome you taped it and posted. Its absolutely amazing how naive humanity can be.... Good on ya!
sworrall
Posted 9/6/2014 9:11 PM (#728939 - in reply to #728902)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Wow.

This guy will get arrested, matter of time. it's all over Facebook.
musky2424
Posted 9/6/2014 10:15 PM (#728946 - in reply to #728902)
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Location: Appleton Wi
I couldnt believe when i saw this. I hear about idiots who do that but have never encountered it, i would never handle it as calm as he did.
timhutson1
Posted 9/7/2014 12:16 AM (#728955 - in reply to #728902)
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Wow; Just Wow!
woodieb8
Posted 9/7/2014 6:17 AM (#728961 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




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I know that Sweetness. he,s been poaching all his life. caught my lab in his rabbit snares 2x. he sells walleyes and obvious clubs skies. the mnr will be at his front door this morning. he will probably go to the hoosegow instead of pay a fine. sad eh. .
kudo,s to the young lads that videoed this. theres no room here in the st clair area for these jerks
pnkocher
Posted 9/7/2014 6:35 AM (#728962 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




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Location: Lakeville, MN
Great job by the guys that approached this idiot and filmed the evidence. Couldn't have been done any better!
muskie-don58
Posted 9/7/2014 6:52 AM (#728963 - in reply to #728962)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




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Location: FIB land
We need to arm ourselves with information that proves a fishery with a healthy muskie population is a healthier fishery of all species including the "favorites". Is this not true ?
sworrall
Posted 9/7/2014 11:44 AM (#728984 - in reply to #728963)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
https://www.facebook.com/OutdoorsFIRST

Interesting reactions! Facebook rocks.

That guy should lose his fishing license for a few years. Idiot.
Zib
Posted 9/7/2014 3:56 PM (#729027 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: RE: Detroit River





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Location: Detroit River

Unfortunately that happens on a regular basis on LSC & the DR. On a regular basis I will either be on the water on the DR or LSC or leaving or coming into the dock & people will ask me what I’m fishing for & when I tell them “musky” they respond by saying; “I hope you kill everyone that you catch.”

Landry
Posted 9/7/2014 7:53 PM (#729072 - in reply to #728902)
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Let us know if u hear anymore on this low life scumbags punishment Woodie.
Landry
Bondy
Posted 9/7/2014 8:02 PM (#729073 - in reply to #728902)
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CO's are on it.
Landry
Posted 9/7/2014 8:33 PM (#729076 - in reply to #728902)
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Awesome.
figure8out
Posted 9/7/2014 8:44 PM (#729078 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River





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Location: Nowhere near where I should be
It pains me to see this, and knowing it could take place anywhere, and does, is just sickening. Especially knowing how hard clubs, natural resource departments, And most musky fisherman practicing C&R work at building and preserving this resource for the future of keeping something to enjoy. Ive approached people on the catch and release and handling issue in the past all with the same sort of narrow minded reply or argument of mind your own business.( Even during the biggest C&R tournament in the state) Honestly, it is my business, its your business too! Ive been a part of a club for a long time, and have helped raise money, donated time, and actually helped plant and stock fish in various local waters. As many on this site have contributed to, in some form, in/on your fisheries/lakes. Kudos to all of you who do care, And do work at keeping their fisheries alive, and keep spreading awareness and importance of what we as whole want to achieve. And a big up to the guys who kept cool and got video and pictures of, not necessarily the most ignorant dude out there, but possibly, one of there leaders. :P With that much footage, He should definitely be made an example of. Thank You!
mnmusky
Posted 9/7/2014 8:58 PM (#729079 - in reply to #729073)
Subject: RE: Detroit River




Bondy - 9/7/2014 8:02 PM

CO's are on it.


Good to hear!
Hope they are tough on crimes like that.
Lifetime hunting/fishing ban at minimum I say.
woodieb8
Posted 9/8/2014 6:22 AM (#729098 - in reply to #728902)
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hopefully the c.o has visited. I have not heard yet. as charges are not public knowledge until its thru courts on Ontario. I know the dingbat. no job does not care poaches rabbits/fish. theres a few here but there getting weeded out.. truly makes it bad for sportsmen and women that care. hopefully a judge that understands the outdoors sits on the bench that day.. I have personally tracked his snare line and cut every wire. some folks should never spawn guess his cousins screwed up
teddy b
Posted 9/8/2014 7:46 AM (#729102 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




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I think his Affliction shirt says it all. The MNR will tap this guy out.
ShutUpNFish
Posted 9/8/2014 11:28 AM (#729125 - in reply to #728902)
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Location: Money, PA
One of the FEW good things about social media....I just hope that more people think to use it for good things like this in the future.
Contender
Posted 9/8/2014 3:29 PM (#729163 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: RE: Detroit River




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Location: Algonac, MI
2nd person in less than a week, who was seen doing this...

There was another non-muskie fishing person (IDIOT), observed doing the same things in the Dumping Grounds. His boat had MC numbers, instead of 55E/42E numbers. Stupid knows no border lines.

Unfortunate, it happens a lot more, than people think. Way too many get it during the walleye run in the spring.
ulbian
Posted 9/8/2014 3:53 PM (#729170 - in reply to #729163)
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At least Isaiah Nielson was killing them to feed his family. So there's that.
pigeontroller
Posted 9/8/2014 4:08 PM (#729173 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




Posts: 225


Location: Ontario, Canada
Got a call from a OMNR C.O. this morning...Made my day, they know who he is, they have contacted the guys that witnessed/video'd it, I'd say they have a pretty good case against this guy!

Edited by pigeontroller 9/8/2014 4:08 PM
Maui-1
Posted 9/8/2014 5:11 PM (#729189 - in reply to #729173)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




Posts: 48


Location: South shore of Lake St. Clair
pigeontroller - 9/8/2014 4:08 PM

Got a call from a OMNR C.O. this morning...Made my day, they know who he is, they have contacted the guys that witnessed/video'd it, I'd say they have a pretty good case against this guy!


Excellent...Thanks for the update
sworrall
Posted 9/9/2014 10:29 AM (#729290 - in reply to #729189)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I hope they throw the book at this guy.
Reelwise
Posted 9/9/2014 12:19 PM (#729312 - in reply to #728902)
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Hats off to the guys that filmed this and confronted the guy who killed the fish. Good for you. Hope he gets caught.
CASTING55
Posted 9/9/2014 12:51 PM (#729321 - in reply to #729312)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




Posts: 968


Location: N.FIB
people like that make me sick,thanks to the angler who filmed this and maybe this will teach other people who kill fish not to do it because you never know when a cameras on ya.
Nershi
Posted 9/9/2014 4:58 PM (#729364 - in reply to #728963)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




Location: MN
I am glad these guys took action. I have heard the Canadian game and fish authorities do not mess around. Hopefully they give this guy what he deserves.

muskie-don58 - 9/7/2014 6:52 AM

We need to arm ourselves with information that proves a fishery with a healthy muskie population is a healthier fishery of all species including the "favorites". Is this not true ?


When I hear walleye guys share their dislike for the "walleye eating musky" I point out that the a lot of the best walleye fisheries in Minnesota contain muskies: LOTW, Leech, Winnie, St Louis River, Vermillion, Cass, Mille Lacs, Detroit Lakes...the list goes on. I am guessing you could compile a similar list for other states and Canada.

Most of these lakes are also excellent for big pannies, bass and/or pike.

There are scientific studies that show data that Muskie do not have a major effect on other fish populations but pointing out this simple fact seems to be more productive in getting them to second guess their viewpoint than referencing a study.
fishpmc
Posted 9/9/2014 5:15 PM (#729367 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: RE: Detroit River




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I hope this POS will never be allowed to fish another day in his life. Thanks to the guys who confronted this moran who killed the fish.
mnmusky
Posted 9/9/2014 5:33 PM (#729369 - in reply to #729364)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




Nershi - 9/9/2014 4:58 PM

I am glad these guys took action. I have heard the Canadian game and fish authorities do not mess around. Hopefully they give this guy what he deserves.

muskie-don58 - 9/7/2014 6:52 AM

We need to arm ourselves with information that proves a fishery with a healthy muskie population is a healthier fishery of all species including the "favorites". Is this not true ?


When I hear walleye guys share their dislike for the "walleye eating musky" I point out that the a lot of the best walleye fisheries in Minnesota contain muskies: LOTW, Leech, Winnie, St Louis River, Vermillion, Cass, Mille Lacs, Detroit Lakes...the list goes on. I am guessing you could compile a similar list for other states and Canada.

Most of these lakes are also excellent for big pannies, bass and/or pike.

There are scientific studies that show data that Muskie do not have a major effect on other fish populations but pointing out this simple fact seems to be more productive in getting them to second guess their viewpoint than referencing a study.


those are the guys with their freezers PACKED with walleye and look for reasons other than themselves to blame for less than ideal fishing.
bigfoot
Posted 9/9/2014 8:56 PM (#729394 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: RE: Detroit River





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Location: Grand Marais, MN
I Really like the disgruntled looking still photo of that guy at the end

I hear the musky eat panfish/perch/walleye population to extinction argument all the time, strangely enough from anglers who cant find fish/ fished their water to death for 40 years and need something else to blame.
edalz
Posted 9/10/2014 11:01 AM (#729465 - in reply to #728902)
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Just a matter of time now.
http://blogs.windsorstar.com/news/caught-on-video-anglers-confront-...
esoxaddict
Posted 9/10/2014 2:37 PM (#729500 - in reply to #728902)
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"We used to go out on Friday and catch 50 walleyes for our Friday night fish fry. Now we're lucky to get 20. The muskies are eating them all!"

I told a guy this once:

"They usually eat suckers, redhorse, bullheads, and all the other fish that eat walleye eggs. Even if they do eat the occasional walleye, a musky only eats a fish every couple days. You guys wipe out more walleyes in a weekend than a musky will eat in it's entire life."

But then you can't tell people like this anything. They heard once from cletus in the bar. That's all it takes.
woodieb8
Posted 9/10/2014 4:29 PM (#729516 - in reply to #728902)
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the argument of fish eating other fish. if one was to look at biological factors and invasive species then they could afford a formed opinion. . st clairs sight feeders enjoyed a population increase. at the zebra mussel invasion most of us moved our charteboats to l.erie. truthfully we never cracked the new code. theres lots of walleyes/perct etc in st clair. re-learn how to fish and theres lots for a meal..a statement in the area paper .ive known eddy 40 years. he had a bad day. the eddy I saw in the video clubbing musky is a poacher. . either her standards are very low or she don't know this eddy. the guy that sells walleyes. snares rabbits illegally.. themnr in Ontario have first prioritized this clubbing because sportsmen care on there lakes/outdoors.
Lunger50
Posted 9/10/2014 6:03 PM (#729542 - in reply to #728902)
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http://www.windsorstar.com/index.html

His rebuttal, video top right.

He's sorry he got caught... Idiot
mnmusky
Posted 9/10/2014 6:14 PM (#729543 - in reply to #729542)
Subject: Re: Detroit River




Lunger50 - 9/10/2014 6:03 PM

http://www.windsorstar.com/index.html

His rebuttal, video top right.

He's sorry he got caught... Idiot


wow....He Cant even lie well. Living garbage.....Ish!
Pointerpride102
Posted 9/10/2014 6:17 PM (#729544 - in reply to #729542)
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Location: The desert
Anyone have a direct link to his "rebuttal"? The posted link doesn't work on my mobile device.
Farmer Rick
Posted 9/10/2014 6:45 PM (#729547 - in reply to #728902)
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Location: Not far enough north!
All Bull... He will never do this again though, in daylight when someone else is around.
Hop
Posted 9/10/2014 6:58 PM (#729553 - in reply to #728902)
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You have to be kidding! What a joke!
Bondy
Posted 9/10/2014 7:02 PM (#729556 - in reply to #728902)
Subject: RE: Detroit River




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Here is the problem...I am looking at what he did. Killed (kept) an undersized musky. He then let it spoil. Unless they have him for something else, I don't think that amounts to anything more than a fine of some sort. He'll get off easy is my prediction...sad to say.
esoxaddict
Posted 9/10/2014 7:49 PM (#729562 - in reply to #728902)
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I watched about 10 seconds of it and I thought: "Aw, SHUT UP, you asshat!!"

Aw... now he's "sorry"...

He's "sorry" because he got caught and now he's got a target on his backside.

He's "sorry" because his lawyer told him he had better be.

He's "sorry" because he was too stupid to predict the crapstorm he just brought on himself.

If he had an ounce of sorry in him, he'd have thrown the fish back BEFORE he clubbed it.

Oh well. He may as well walk around with a shirt that says "I'm a D-bag!" at this point.

There's no excuse he can make now that's going to fix anything.
Pointerpride102
Posted 9/10/2014 8:07 PM (#729564 - in reply to #729556)
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Bondy - 9/10/2014 7:02 PM

Here is the problem...I am looking at what he did. Killed (kept) an undersized musky. He then let it spoil. Unless they have him for something else, I don't think that amounts to anything more than a fine of some sort. He'll get off easy is my prediction...sad to say.


Wanton waste.

I know in some places the CO (usually Captain or LT) can recommend revocation.
edalz
Posted 9/10/2014 9:19 PM (#729577 - in reply to #728902)
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I would think the boat was used in the crime so maybe they should take the boat. He is "sorry" because he got and why did he have the club in the boat? He's a lying POS and Karmas a good guy.
Zib
Posted 9/10/2014 9:55 PM (#729586 - in reply to #729577)
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Location: Detroit River

edalz - 9/10/2014 10:19 PM I would think the boat was used in the crime so maybe they should take the boat. He is "sorry" because he got and why did he have the club in the boat? He's a lying POS and Karmas a good guy.

 

It wasn't his boat from what I've heard. He's so full of crap when he claimed it was his first time doing that.

 

http://blogs.windsorstar.com/news/accused-muskie-hater-apologizes-for-killing-fish-and-heated-confrontation?fb_action_ids=10202688028191012&fb_action_types=og.comments

 

edalz
Posted 9/10/2014 10:06 PM (#729589 - in reply to #729586)
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I heard that as well but if I lend you my car and you get caught committing a crime in it then the police may confiscate the car. I'm sure the guy that lent out the boat is regretting his decision.
jchiggins
Posted 9/10/2014 11:16 PM (#729598 - in reply to #729564)
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Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn
Pointerpride102 - 9/10/2014 8:07 PM

Bondy - 9/10/2014 7:02 PM

Here is the problem...I am looking at what he did. Killed (kept) an undersized musky. He then let it spoil. Unless they have him for something else, I don't think that amounts to anything more than a fine of some sort. He'll get off easy is my prediction...sad to say.


Wanton waste.

I know in some places the CO (usually Captain or LT) can recommend revocation.
Pointy is right on it. Bare minimum should be, illegal harvest of undersized fish and wanton waste.
lennyg3
Posted 9/10/2014 11:39 PM (#729600 - in reply to #728902)
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Location: NE PA
What a scumbag.... I think that sums it up actually.
sworrall
Posted 9/23/2014 11:58 AM (#731494 - in reply to #728902)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Here's the original thread. Protocol here is if the same topic is on the first page, one goes...because it makes no sense to have two active threads about exactly the same topic plugging up the board. If it's back a ways, then it may be news to some folks. I agree folks need to read more than the first couple threads, but some don't have the time....or inclination. That's understandably a little annoying to those who read most everything.

What reel for Double Tens?