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| I am wanting to add a reel to the arsenal and am looking for a high speed reel for top water and small stuff. Do you guys prefer the 50 or 60 size and why? |
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Location: Western U.P. | Have both sizes, and use a 50 in 6.4:1 on a 3/4-4 oz rod for smaller to mid size lures. Has good speed for top water also. Don't need the extra width or weight of the 60's for this size equipment. I have decent sized hands, and the 50 fits my palm well on this set up. Either one will do the job, get the one that feels the best in your hand. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | I use the 60 for 80 lb braid and the 50 for 65 lb braid. That said, for normal sized musky baits, get the 60. |
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Location: Walker, MN | I like both sizes but if I only had one, I would go with the 60. The 60 is better for 100# test and you can comfortably troll with it if you want to. I prefer the 50 on my jerk/twitch rod and for small to medium lures with 80# braid. |
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| Both the 50 and the 60 feel awkward in my hands. It could be the way I palm the reel or otherwise grip the rod but I have found that the toros seem to have spots that really irritate me and cause blisters and hand discomfort. The toros are well made reels and otherwise perform nicely. That being said I really enjoy the feel of my lexa 400 and 300. I'd suggest trying out both reels for a day. If you want a more versatile reel I would opt for a 60 size or 400 size. I really enjoy the comfort of knowing I have the extra line capacity and ability to run thicker diameter braid. I have seen one two many lures sail off the end of my rod with thinner braid to feel comfortable. |
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Location: Pewaukee | I own both sizes. My 50 is a 5:4:1, one winch 60 and one NACL 60. I have to say that I enjoy using the 50 the most. All have 80# and all have power handles on them. I bought the 50 for my wife since I thought it would be easier for her to use. She goes with me once a year and never has a backlash or problem with it. It is the reel I give to my buddies who don't fish much and it never seems to give anyone grief or handed back to me with a birds nest. I've never worried about the line capacity. Never been an issue. However, Ive never landed a 50" yet with it. I've never thrown pounders with it, but it has had its share of cowgirls. My 50 spends time on a med hvy 8' St. Croix and a Heavy Bulldawg 8'. Don't get me wrong the 60s are great too. I used a Tranx one season and disliked the weight and size and have settled on these. Others my not share my experiences but that is the cool thing about Musky fishing - use what you like. My buddy swears by his old and well used calcutta 400b and throws anything and everything with it. He stays on top of the maintenance and while he could afford any big dollar reel he sticks with that one. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I have both brands and three of the reels Slumpbuster talked about. I honestly can't see anywhere that either Toro would cause 'discomfort' and especially 'blisters'.
I like the 50 for cranks, 9" Suicks, medium spinnerbaits and all my topwater, and the 60 for larger lures. I have 65 on the 50 and 80 on the 60 with more than enough line capacity. And I don't see any lures sailing off the end of my rod, but that's me. 
The Lexa 400 is a significantly bigger reel.
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| The 50's are great, the 60 is super wide for me. It is much wider than a lexa 400, for what you are doing, the 50 would work great, I use 80lb on the 50's. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Here are images of all three.The tape measure shows that the Lexa 400 S and Revo NACL 60 are nearly identical in width measuring from the handle nut to the edge of the left face plate. The rest you can see in the images.
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| If you can measure from the reel seat, the 60 feels way wider to palm and I have decent sized mitts:-) love the 50's though. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | It's almost exactly the same. The 60 faceplate is about a 16th wider, but palming the reel one's hand is not there on either reel or the 400 magnetic control would be in the way, way too high up on the reel.
The difference is the 400 is longer and handle larger, and feels different in the hand. To me it feels 'bigger' because it's longer and a bit deeper. Comfortable reel either way, just not a 50.
With the bevels on both reels on the right faceplate the grip is very similar. |
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Location: Wakefield, MI | sworrall - 9/5/2014 7:38 PM
I have both brands and three of the reels Slumpbuster talked about. I honestly can't see anywhere that either Toro would cause 'discomfort' and especially 'blisters'.
I like the 50 for cranks, 9" Suicks, medium spinnerbaits and all my topwater, and the 60 for larger lures. I have 65 on the 50 and 80 on the 60 with more than enough line capacity. And I don't see any lures sailing off the end of my rod, but that's me.
The Lexa 400 is a significantly bigger reel.
I can see the sharp point at the back of the reel being uncomfortable after a while. I only have one Toro though and run Calcuttas on my other rods, so it's not a problem as I am switching rough out the day. My dad runs all Toros and by the end of the season he starts getting a sore spot on the web of his hand from that sharp point, he did last year and again just started to in the last two weeks. I put two fingers in front if the trigger, my dad does one. Fully palming the reel would probably help but I prefer not to. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Both reels have a bevel in the same place that by design fits the hand holding the reel trigger between ring and second finger. The 'point' is 'outside' the grip on both reels.
If one holds the reel with the trigger between the little and ring finger, both reels jam the hand some if one tries to grip the reel really hard; I do that pulling double 10's when my hand gets tired, and allow the reel to pull forward and the rod to do the work, not my grip. If you are holding too far forward, the balance of the rods will wear your hand out gripping really hard....unless you counterbalance the rod, which I do.
The 50 cups better, is easier to hold if one moves the grip back a finger, and overall is an easier reel to use all day long for medium sized baits.
And the Muskies don't care.
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Location: NoDak | size 50, with 80# is what i use, only on the windyest days with the most areo dynmic topwaters can i cast all my line out, 30 plus mph, and yes i get it that the spool shinks way down when all my line is out so i have to realy burn it for the first half of the cast, only reaon i think about a size 60 or for 100# rubbers, i do like my revo inshore for small springtime baits, or for after 4 days straight, i can put that stoudt bass reel to use so i can feel my arms
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| Anyone have any experience throwing big rubber with the 60's? Would they hold up to throwing pounders all day? |
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Location: Michigan | esoxbuckeye - 9/6/2014 11:27 AM
Anyone have any experience throwing big rubber with the 60's? Would they hold up to throwing pounders all day?
I used a size 60 on my pounder rod for two years and didn't have a problem with it at all.
I recently switched to the Lexa line of reels, but you can't go wrong with the Revo Toros. See if any of your musky friends will let you try a 50, 60, lexa 300, 400 and see what is best for you. A reel can feel great in the store, but quickly feel uncomfortable once it is actually retrieving baits. |
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| The only thing I find tricky about the Revo 60 NACl is the thumb bar. When I cast I have to adjust my hand back a little so I can hold the bar down during the cast because the reel rides so close to the rod. I like the fact it rides so close for reeling all day long, it puts less stress on my other fingers while retrieving D10's which it does fine with the power handle. |
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Location: Pewaukee | I Have never had that experience with my NACL 60. Ill have to see if it sits diffetently than my winch 60. I never experienced that problem with that reel either. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | The frame of the reel is the same shape for the nacl and winch reels |
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| I have the LEXA 300 7.1 and 400 5.1 and the NACL 50 6.4 and 60 5.4. After a couple weeks of using them all the NACL 60 is the best reel for me. It is the same width and height as the 400 but much shorter, lighter and palms easier. It also cranks dbl 10s easier and faster. At least for me it does. All have power handles on them. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | I have a Revo 60 in the 5.4 ratio and love it. I'm sure the 50 size would work well for smaller baits, but for myself I don't see the need to step down. The 60 palms so easily compared to any 400 size round reel, than I don't see needing the 50. I prefer how the 60 maintains good line pickup at the end of a long cast due to the wider spool.
My wife used to use a 250 size round reel and I couldn't stand having to crank like crazy after a long cast due to most of the line being off the spool. She used the Toro 60 for a whole week in Canada and had no issues palming the reel for the entire trip, which she definately could not do with a 400 series round reel. |
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| More pics cause everyone loves pics!
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| If you cant tell the LEXAs are huge and dont have the same fit and finish as the NACLs. Not to mention clickers if you want to troll. |
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Location: Western U.P. | Achotrod,
Great use of pics in threads (4 of the top 6)! That may be a record. Good looking stuff... cool table too. |
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| Thanks! I love the table too. |
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