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| So we had a late 20s or 30 so fish get hooked up on a Suick under and between the gills... she was a bleeding. We kept her in the water in the net only lifting out of water minimal time in net still to get the hook out. She was still bleeding and we held her and trolled holding her.... belly up... we never took a picture... never measured... we tried...
Any thing different we could have done? |
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| Things happen, if you feel like you dd your best then that's all you can do. |
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Location: Lake St.Clair | Nothing you can really do in that situation buddy.
I had it happen to me once on a smaller fish i cut the hook off the bait and cut as much of the hooks i could without yanking on her gills since she destroyed it and hooked herself goofy. Swam off but i dont know if the fish made it or not.
Ive heard storys on here awhile back about they might be able to shed that hook and survive or grow around what was there hopefully she did. |
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Location: Maplewood, MN | I feel ya, but it happens. I had a bass tournament today and boated a 4.5 pounder in the first 5 min of an 8 hour tourney. All of my other fish in the livewell were very active but she went belly up… I felt sick but it happens. |
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Location: Bemidji, Lake Vermilion | It can happen. I've lost 2. One that was caught trolling and had her mouth completed pinned shut top and bottom lips on a hook, basically dead when I scooped her. Couldn't "breathe." The other one ate a double dawg deep, had a hook firmly in the bottom of the gill arch, cut it as fast as we could. When they "puff" blood that's really bad. That's what she did. Felt really bad both times, still worked them for over an hr each. But dead is dead. We all take the risk every time we fish for them. |
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Location: NE Ohio | lures have allot of hooks that always end up in other places other than the mouth. it happens or is going to happen to EVERYBODY sooner or a later. just knowing that you done all you could is a job well done. its the circle of life, if you didn't take it to eat something down the food chain will. nothing in the real world gets wasted. hold your head high and have a nice day! |
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Location: oswego, il | These things do happen. Only thing for us to critique would have been the unhooking process and how that went. Describe the unhooking process that took place. |
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Location: Wisconsin | One tip I have heard is if you have a bleeding musky, pour some soda in its mouth and run it through the gills. The combination of sugar and carbonation is suppose to help clog up the bleeding.
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Location: Planet Meltdown | WiscoMusky - 8/4/2014 9:21 AM
One tip I have heard is if you have a bleeding musky, pour some soda in its mouth and run it through the gills. The combination of sugar and carbonation is suppose to help clog up the bleeding.
Interesting! Maybe it's worth keeping a bottle of coke / pepsi on the boat just for this situation? |
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| Bottom gills are super tough to work with.. its hard to even find the hooks in that area... what i did and has really helped now is for example on double 10 bucktail i will only use 2 prongs on the treble - i cut one prong off each hook and pinch the barbs on the rear hook... this has made it so much easier |
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Location: Wisconsin | brianT- after hearing this from a guide in Green Bay, I have kept a soda on me. Thankfully I haven't had to use it but its definitely worth a shot |
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Location: Hayward, WI | There's probably nothing you could have done. I lost (I think) a 44" two years ago and took it hard. It was bleeding, and seemed bloated (turned belly up and floated even when kicking away fairly powerfully).
I tried to squeeze it's belly some to "burp" it, and finally tried putting it in my livewell with the aerator on to get some water running over it's gills, but it kept slowly losing strength.
It finally seemed to get rid of it's air, and would sink when let go of. It was very weak, but I eventually let go of it and watched it slowly sink in about 15 feet of water (thermocline at 18), hoping it would get to cool, oxygen rich water and maybe make it.
That one hurt, as I caught it the year before at 43 inches, and was a beautiful, well built fish. Seemed like a fish that had good potential, and was a hard fighter both catches. I took it hard, but now realize that I did everything possible. Spent two hours working with that fish.
Sometimes they just get hooked bad. It happens with bluegills and walleyes too, just don't dwell on it with those fish like we do with muskies.
Tucker
Edited by curleytail 8/4/2014 1:39 PM
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| Unfortunately it was a Suick... lots of hooks... she fought hard even in the net... once she stopped there only one hook under gills... as rest near eyes we held top of lure up from her head/hooks and when we pliered back hook she fought more... and was puffing blood... fought as tried to reach in on back hook and came free.... once free kept in water... and seemed to stop puffing blood... but had to hold up right... took out of net and held forward with trolling motor... she swam free once and came up belly up right away.. easy to re net.. after trolled holding forward to no avail... I feel bad but trying to learn from it. She was never out of water.
2 thoughts... cut hook out and maybe wait to settle before grabbing hook. Coke thing is interesting.... would have had to do asap on her... bleeding from fight right off the bat bad.
Seems should have been able to do something. Bothers me WE can't take them home to eat...as I watched her drift to shore. Mind you I would do everything in power to never have to take one home. I guess something will get a good meal. 
Edited by Nell 8/4/2014 2:00 PM
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Location: Smith Creek | I feel your pain, as sportsmen (and women) we loathe the idea of wasting game, but you have to remember, nature doesn't waste anything. That fish could be the difference between making it through the winter and perishing for an eagle or turtle.
I'm guessing you and yours could survive without it.
Barbless can help in certain situations, not sure if this was one or not. If the injury occurred during the unhooking process rather than the fight it might have helped. |
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Location: The desert | I wouldn't run your trolling motor. Just hold them steady and let them breathe. Too fast with the TM and you could potentially drown them. |
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Location: Grand Forks ND | Cut the hooks and don't worry about pulling the piece out of the gills. Just leave it in there, they fall out on their own. |
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| We throw big baits with lots of hooks on them designed to catch big fish, sometimes small fish eat big lures and bad things happen. Have your Knipex cutters ready and cut every hook you can, that gives the fish and you a better chance of getting away without injury. I cut every hook that I can see when the fish is in the net, 9 times out of 10 the lure will come right out without doing further damage. I always carry hooks from 2/0 to 5/0 for replacing cut hooks. All it took was one fish thrashing in the net and impaling me, and one fish loosing an eye when it thrashed to make up my mind to net the fish and start cutting. |
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Location: Lake of the Woods, Morson, Ontario | Good advice here. It can and will happen when fishing long enough.
Barbless hooks, knipex to cut everything and hold her still would be my three pieces of advice...all of which have been mentioned.
Had a nice pike die on my last summer.
Fish on! |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Was the hook in the gills or in the body of the fish between the back of the gills toward the fins? The heart on fish is very close to the gills (see link) and if a hook punctures the heart there's no saving them and nothing you can do to prevent it other than fishing without hooks. Fish hooked in the heart usually bleed out by the time they're netted, the fins will go pale and within minutes the fish is completely lifeless.
http://sharonapbio-taxonomy.wikispaces.com/file/view/Fish.jpg/50836... |
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Location: Tennessee | WiscoMusky - 8/4/2014 9:21 AM
One tip I have heard is if you have a bleeding musky, pour some soda in its mouth and run it through the gills. The combination of sugar and carbonation is suppose to help clog up the bleeding.
I'm curious now as well. I had a 44.5" that as can be seen in the TVMA video was bleeding a good deal after inhaling my Chad Shad but after a little time she actually powered off a little ways from the boat and never reappeared in 3.5-4 hours. Sometimes though as it's been said, there's nothing we can do when they're that bad off. |
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Location: NE PA | I have heard the coke thing before from bass guys. never have tried it though. |
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Lost a first Muskie after five years... she wasn't going to make it.... :( tips please?